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    NegativeS's Avatar
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    Negative Space
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    Seraph
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    Asking an MMO to remove its weekly prog caps is like asking a farmer if they want all of their potential crop for the year to magically appear in their barn on January 1st.

    The farmer will tell you, "sure, it'd be nice to have that influx of cash, but wouldn't most of it rot and go bad rather quickly? then i'd be stuck with a bunch of rotting vegetable and an ugly empty field all year."

    The MMO will tell you, "sure, it'd be nice for them to make all that progress, but wouldn't they burn through everything in a month and unsub? then i'd be stuck with a ton of lost profit and empty servers all patch."
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    Leyna Crosse
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    The 450 tome cap holds me back from playing, advancing and enjoying the game. I agree its time for it to get the boot.
    Let me PLAY your game!!

    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    The farmer will tell you, "sure, it'd be nice to have that influx of cash, but wouldn't most of it rot and go bad rather quickly? then i'd be stuck with a bunch of rotting vegetable and an ugly empty field all year."

    The MMO will tell you, "sure, it'd be nice for them to make all that progress, but wouldn't they burn through everything in a month and unsub? then i'd be stuck with a ton of lost profit and empty servers all patch."
    Firstly, this game is not a job (but it certainly is made to feel like one with all the lockouts).
    Secondly, Not being able to do anything productive because of weekly lockouts means that most will unsub as soon as they get bored anyways (which in my FC's experience is roughly 1-1/2 months after a major patch).

    Neither of these arguments are a good representation for why lockouts should remain.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 11-21-2025 at 11:21 PM.

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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    The 450 tome cap holds me back from playing, advancing and enjoying the game. I agree its time for it to get the boot.
    Let me PLAY your game!!
    How does it hold you back?
    If you mean gear-wise, you can just get the crafted equipment and augment it. Which has the same itemlevel as the Mathematics gear and Heliometry Tomestones are more readily available since they don't have a weekly cap.
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    Alaeia Redgrave
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    How does it hold you back?
    If you mean gear-wise, you can just get the crafted equipment and augment it. Which has the same itemlevel as the Mathematics gear and Heliometry Tomestones are more readily available since they don't have a weekly cap.
    Augmented crafted gear is only available in X.1, X.3 and X.5 that means one has to wait entire patch to even out their second favourite role to their main role (with the assumption they don't raid). That again limits them from doing stuff they like - they can't for example fill in as their secondary role in farm parties for older extremes or other activities where the community imposes a ilvl limit that more-or-less matches current expected iLevel that one would get if they played every week and got tomstone gear or in .1, .3, .5 if they got upgrades from alliance raids on top of that.
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I think in the .8 patches before a new tomestome tier comes out they could at least up the weekly cap as they are about to be obsolete anyway. Same goes for the weekly lookout on the Sandorian coins. No reason they couldn't have been unlocked this .8 patch.
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I'm fine with the cap at first, but near the end of the patch they really should consider raising the amount like they use to (up to 900 iirc).
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    Black Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I'm fine with the cap at first, but near the end of the patch they really should consider raising the amount like they use to (up to 900 iirc).
    They still do this tho? It was raised to 900 just before the release of DT in the past already.

    The only thing I want SE to do is increase the max limit of poetics to 4k or even 5k since all old gear and relics require tons of them.
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    They still do this tho? It was raised to 900 just before the release of DT in the past already.

    The only thing I want SE to do is increase the max limit of poetics to 4k or even 5k since all old gear and relics require tons of them.
    Nah I mean in-between, like now would have been a good time before the new ones come out.

    But yes I agree with the poetics
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    Kali Zeruel
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The cap serves a purpose at the beginning of a raid tier, to keep raiders from getting all their gear right away, but in my opinion they need to raise the cap earlier and keep increasing it over time, or decrease the cost of the gear with each piece you buy. What if buying a tome chest piece gave a discount on the cost of the other tome chest pieces?
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post
    The cap serves a purpose at the beginning of a raid tier, to keep raiders from getting all their gear right away, but in my opinion they need to raise the cap earlier and keep increasing it over time, or decrease the cost of the gear with each piece you buy. What if buying a tome chest piece gave a discount on the cost of the other tome chest pieces?
    I could see that being a happy medium.
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