The current find/setup party system is great

[Reika]

And I have made full parties in less than 3 minutes with the current system. Dunno what server you play on, but you all need to come together and explain the current system to each other, not call for its destruction.

Open Recruitment, make 1 shout saying there is a recruitment (Optional to speed it up), party formed.

No issues on my end.

[Zkieve]

And I have made full parties in less than 3 minutes with the current system. Dunno what server you play on, but you all need to come together and explain the current system to each other, not call for its destruction.

Open Recruitment, make 1 shout saying there is a recruitment (Optional to speed it up), party formed.

No issues on my end.

is not what ever you did or not.
The problem is you dont know if you are gonna wait 5min or 2h with the current system.
While if you 7sea and see nothing , you know there is or there is not a way to make a party.
Please (not refering to you in particular) people stop being so close minded.

[Reika]

Ah now I am closed minded for being able to comprehend the system in place and quickly form parties with it.

Well have fun complaining.

[Zkieve]

Ah now I am closed minded for being able to comprehend the system in place and quickly form parties with it.

Well have fun complaining.

Can you explain to me why is flag and /sea system bad together with this?.
If you like to shout and explain the system to people (assuming they do not know , i know is not the case).
Why should i have to go into those methods in order to make a party , without at least knowing there are in fact people who meets what i need in regards of ,

level,class,skills, Access.Party focus.

You can say you make party in 5 min all you want , but when there are requirements for some aspects of the game, this feature will fall short.You will expend hours looking for people, because you didnt know what the possibilities of making a party was when you started . While with a LFG and /sea you would and then , based on that , take the decision if you "can" make a party or not.

Saying you "always" find people who meets the requirement for your party is completely untrue.
For that time when you cant find people would you rather do a /sea and see the possibilities for a party for your objectives are null or close to 0 and try a different time , or would you rather wait for the "luck" factor someone might see the shouts in the area the shouts reach or see the party search ?

[Zaene]

Allow me to use an analogy to explain to you what you just said to me:

I've been drinking coffee using a mug made by Company X. Now Company X having made mugs before, makes a new mug, out of molten lava (stay with me here) and expects me, the consumer not knowing that this is what the company is now making mugs out of, to use said mug with the same comfort that I have experienced using mugs made by them in the past.

[Kaedan]

Allow me to use an analogy to explain to you what you just said to me:

I've been drinking coffee using a mug made by Company X. Now Company X having made mugs before, makes a new mug, out of molten lava (stay with me here) and expects me, the consumer not knowing that this is what the company is now making mugs out of, to use said mug with the same comfort that I have experienced using mugs made by them in the past.

I'm all for adding a /sea function, but this "analogy" was just so bad, I had to correct it.

I'll try to help: Ever seen the movie Demolition Man? Stalone is used to using toilet paper when he's in the bathroom. He goes into the toilet and comes out a minute later saying, "There's no toilet paper." And the others laugh at him and say, "He doesn't know how to use the 3 sea shells?"

THAT is a good analogy for this situation. Stalone is unaware of how to properly use the system in place. It doesn't mean the system is necessarily bad, it just means he's ignorant of how it works. And just like his co-workers, some people choose to make fun of him instead of helping.

But in this case, there is a person helping, and he's added a tutorial (and I'm fairly certain there's an explanation in the game somewhere). So at this point it's just ludicrous for people to be b****ing.

However, I do support adding the /sea system AS WELL. It not only will compliment a the party system, but it can be used for purposes other than making a party as well. There's no reason we can't have both.

[gifthorse]

I didn't figure out how to use the party search feature until January. I know that's sad on behalf of my intelligence, but I also think it is, in part, SE's fault.

It's not exactly the most user-friendly search function.

Wouldn't it make more sense to just be able to search all parties which are forming, and then filter by criteria? Instead of choosing a criteria first and then searching?

[EdenT]

I'm on Gysahl and every time I search for a party there's at least half a dozen groups but all Japanese with "LS" appearing somewhere within their text, or just all Japanese text. I've joined one of these parties before that had the right rank level written in numeric characters, but have not been received well as it again was a private party/LS.

Add the ability to use Auto-Translate function within the party details field so that we can overcome language barriers again. In XI I mostly PT'd with Japanese folk cause I'm in Australia and they're 1hr behind me. The language barrier was never really a problem. XIV's addition of enemy and party signs makes it even easier to convey simple battle messages to those of differing language.

There needs to be some kind of party feature within the LS interface, or a way to flag the LS so that only LS members can see the party when searching and non-LS members don't. The party feature should really be exclusively for people that want to party with others. LS's just use it so they don't have to invite everyone manually.

I miss the /sea function. Even when people weren't displaying a party flag in FFXI, you could still look for certain parameters and most of the time, people were willing to join with you when you contacted them or you could make contact with people of certain criteria to seek advice on jobs etc.

The new party function is a good foundation that can be improved and highly useful with some minor changes.

[ChiefCurrahee]

I haven't been in a PT outside of organized LS or behest / guildleve PTs.

Have they fixed the "You're too far away from the PT leader" = not able to claim mob / no sp issue yet?

If they have thumbs up!

If they haven't that features is ridiculous! I'm all for grouping, either seeking PT or seeking members, however while the PT is being build I (as a joining PT member) want to "do my own thing" until the PT is ready to go.

As far a seeking PT. We should have options to seek on multiple jobs. Just the same as a PT leader can request open enrollment of multiple jobs.

Just put a box next to each job you want to seem, put a check mark in the boxes you want to seek on. THen a PT leader can do a /sea all "X" job. If you happen to be wanting to SP Gladiator but are currently playing Conjurer that PT leader can send you a tell.

Keep the current PT finder, but add a "by invite only" option for PT leaders (do they have this? it's been a long time since i've used to recruiting function). If you're PT is by invite only make it searchable still, that way you can send a /tell to the leader and say "hey I'm a R42 Glad, can I join" and then it's to the PT leaders discretion, if they want/need that player to join.