Please Provide Englsh TRANSLATION For The Japanese

[RaionKansen]

The English localization of this game jeopardizes the integrity of the game and it gets worse the more Japanese I learn.

Having voiced dialogue be so divergent or straight up wrong in comparison to the Japanese is not localization.

If I am not playing in the English dub, I should not get the subtitles for the English dub. It should be subtitles for the actual Japanese.

I also have to assume the rest of the game's text also takes additional liberties for no reason.

I really hope the new person in charge considers some changes.

[Shipp]

My main beef is the naming scheme of spells not using the proper -aga, -aja, etc, suffixes.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

My main beef is the naming scheme of spells not using the proper -aga, -aja, etc, suffixes.

THAT... has an actual bit of lore btw. If you visit the Great Gubal Library (Hard) after the 2nd boss, there is a book that goes as follows:

Proceedings of the Council of Magi: Proceedings of the 284th Convocation of the Amdapori Council of Magi

A vote was called to settle on a name for a potent and newly-fashioned healing spell. Being that said healing spell was an augmentation of Curaga, erst the most potent healing spell, the following names were proposed by the council.

Curago, Curaza, Curaja, Curagura

Finding the afore-written names duly lacking in gravity and the existing hierarchy of spell names needlessly abstruse, the Council did vote by a margin of Seventeen to Three to do away with existing naming conventions entirely and adopt a new system of numerical spell names, as writ below, to be used henceforth.

Cure I, Cure II, Cure III, Cure IV

It is recorded.

This is a 4th wall break - this was, from what I was told, an actual IRL vote done by the english localization team. This is why german & japanese go by the -ra/-ga/-ja (-ka in german) convention), french opted for prefixes (Extra, Mega, Giga) and english went with numerical suffixes.

On that matter - give us Cure IV/Curaja, when? I mean in the Scholar quest you even see something cast Cure V, for god's sake.

[Shipp]

THAT... has an actual bit of lore btw. If you visit the Great Gubal Library (Hard) after the 2nd boss, there is a book that goes as follows:



This is a 4th wall break - this was, from what I was told, an actual IRL vote done by the english localization team. This is why german & japanese go by the -ra/-ga/-ja (-ka in german) convention), french opted for prefixes (Extra, Mega, Giga) and english went with numerical suffixes.

On that matter - give us Cure IV/Curaja, when? I mean in the Scholar quest you even see something cast Cure V, for god's sake.

This is even worse, because what in the world does the book actually say in Japanese, then? Certainly none of that nonsense.

The problem with the numerals is that they make no sense. The best way to have localized them if they were going to change them would have been to adopt XI's naming. Fire 3 would be fire 2 to denote it is the next tier of single target spell. Fire 2 would be Fira. High Fire 2 would be Firaga to denote the next tier of AoE.

[Azurarok]

This is even worse, because what in the world does the book actually say in Japanese, then? Certainly none of that nonsense.

The problem with the numerals is that they make no sense. The best way to have localized them if they were going to change them would have been to adopt XI's naming. Fire 3 would be fire 2 to denote it is the next tier of single target spell. Fire 2 would be Fira. High Fire 2 would be Firaga to denote the next tier of AoE.

The exact text is as follows:

第２８４回アムダプール白魔導士会大会議議事録
議題「ケアルガに次ぐ、高位治癒魔法の名称について」

この度、新たに編み出された高位治癒魔法の名称について、
「ケアルゴ」「ケアルザ」「ケアルジャ」「ケアルギョ」など、
複数案が各派によって提案されていた。

派閥ごとに弁論が行われた後、
投票が行われた結果、偏差で「ケアルギョ」を破り、
「ケアルジャ」が採択されたことを、ここに記す。

The first two lines are pretty much as-is (except Curagura is Curagyo), but in short the council took a vote, with Curaja barely winning over Curagyo.

YoshiP also noted during EW that they went with High to go above the -ja suffix for BLM in EW mostly because he didn't want to do the weirder suffixes like -gyo.

[Shipp]

The exact text is as follows:


The first two lines are pretty much as-is (except Curagura is Curagyo), but in short the council took a vote, with Curaja barely winning over Curagyo.

YoshiP also noted during EW that they went with High to go above the -ja suffix for BLM in EW mostly because he didn't want to do the weirder suffixes like -gyo.

Fascinating. Thank you for that!

[Basteala]

This is even worse, because what in the world does the book actually say in Japanese, then? Certainly none of that nonsense. .

Oh now I'm very curious.

EDIT: Oh. Someone posted it. How nice

[Moshimoshikami]

Here is a 2-hour interview with Koji Fox discussing localization:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afr98AHwAKw

It is very informative. Localization involves much more than simply matching every Japanese word to English.

[RaionKansen]

Here is a 2-hour interview with Koji Fox discussing localization:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afr98AHwAKw

It is very informative. Localization involves much more than simply matching every Japanese word to English.

Its not informative. Its almost like I purposely differentiated localization from translation.

It's gone beyond localization. They've decided that the EN version of the game has its own identity that they've created separate from the JP.
Not everything needs to be changed or adapted.
There's even times in encounters where a boss will say an ability in English in the Japanese, and the EN version of the game changes the name of it anyways.

This has continued to get worse in videogames and anime over the last decade or so.

[Moshimoshikami]

Its not informative. Its almost like I purposely differentiated localization from translation.

It's gone beyond localization. They've decided that the EN version of the game has its own identity that they've created separate from the JP.
Not everything needs to be changed or adapted.
There's even times in encounters where a boss will say an ability in English in the Japanese, and the EN version of the game changes the name of it anyways.

This has continued to get worse in videogames and anime over the last decade or so.

I think you should still watch it you will learn a lot.