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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLolly View Post
    7.2 was an improvement over base DT and 7.1 in gameplay and Writing. 7.3 was a further improvement over that in both as well, and it concluded DT on a good note.

    That's my opinion, sure, but they've already turned the corner for me and this is what I asked for. In a month we're getting the first prologue bit for 8.0. DT is already being set behind us.
    They said going into 6.1 and DT that they were performing several large experiments to help determine the next 10 years of the game. It's clear that they were going in one direction and had to stay the course for 7.1 as they were already fairly committed to their guess as to what we would want. I have a hunch that this was possibly due to some corporate pressure to focus on a new market, rather than maintain its current population.

    Clearly, they saw that their ideas were incorrect and started to change in 7.2 and 7.3. Hopefully this will be confirmed in 7.4 through 8.0, time will tell but due to the extensive damage to the game, it will take a lot of time to heal.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleAbernath View Post
    I keep giving this game the benefit of the doubt over and over and over again, only to be gaslit every single time by the dev team.
    lol, you'd figure after the second year they would have figured something out.
    And they're STILL subbed. I'm tellin' ya nothing more powerful than spite.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Clearly, they saw that their ideas were incorrect and started to change in 7.2 and 7.3.
    What have they started changing in 7.2 and 7.3? PT maybe? That's about it? So that's very recent.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    What have they started changing in 7.2 and 7.3? PT maybe? That's about it? So that's very recent.
    I was referring to the direction of the MSQ story. It’s clear that they had intended to do something with Wuk and being a dual ruler of Tural. I have a feeling that they were going to have her join us as a traveling companion so she can see the world and become more worldly as a ruler like her brother. They had also intended to have Sphene stay in Alexandria.

    Those plans are out and now they have to pivot into a different direction with Sphene being the probable new companion as hinted in the patch trailer. Sphene is considerably more popular with the players so it makes sense and I like this potential direction for the story. She can turn on her virtual clone and slip away without anybody noticing and get reports when she checks in or returns.

    Players do not want to be a background character like we were in 7.0 and 7.1. 7.2 onward restored us to being the main character in the story. The climatic cutscene in 7.3 shows this in vivid detail including the immense amount of resources that the art department put into the CS.

    Now the Devs just have to win back the 50% of the player base who quit during 7.0 to 7.1.
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  5. #45
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    I'mma keep it a buck, the only accountability I want is 8.0 to be a banger.
    I don't need apologies or honeyed words or whatever. Just a great expansion. That's enough for me.
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  6. #46
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    Certain ideas ended up not working, that is a fact. Players were unhappy with this, that or the other, also a fact. However, we cant just sit here and demand apologies or accountability just because 'we've been here since 1.0' or 'we've played for so many years'. That isn't how it works. We can provide feedback, we can stop subbing, we can keep playing, those are our options.

    Was DT Perfect? No, not by any means. Did it have good content? Depends on who you ask. The MSQ may have been weak to start, but it dug itself out and is attempting to move forward in a new direction. All I want right now is to see where it leads, and hope we wither A. Visit Mericydia, or B. Shard travel, but if neither happens, oh well, i wont demand anything of the devs, i'll just tell them 'This didnt work for me, chief' and hope side content is good to play through for the patches.

    Here is hoping 7.4 really has some teeth, and makes players hopeful again.
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  7. #47
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    Failure? Nahhh only to the OP I guess? Me & wife love Dawntrail.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleAbernath View Post
    I mean the dawntraild draught made our datacenter a ghost town which again proves my point about how dawntrail damaged the game. Pretending that Primal wasn't social and active is just naive.
    I think this is a case of Dawntrail furthering what the massive content drought at the end of Endwalker started. A lot of my FC didn't even return for Dawntrail and the ones who did got through the MSQ and were so put off they never came back.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I think this is a case of Dawntrail furthering what the massive content drought at the end of Endwalker started. A lot of my FC didn't even return for Dawntrail and the ones who did got through the MSQ and were so put off they never came back.
    Same on my end. Also my friend list is a ghost town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I was referring to the direction of the MSQ story. It’s clear that they had intended to do something with Wuk and being a dual ruler of Tural. I have a feeling that they were going to have her join us as a traveling companion so she can see the world and become more worldly as a ruler like her brother. They had also intended to have Sphene stay in Alexandria.

    Those plans are out and now they have to pivot into a different direction with Sphene being the probable new companion as hinted in the patch trailer. Sphene is considerably more popular with the players so it makes sense and I like this potential direction for the story. She can turn on her virtual clone and slip away without anybody noticing and get reports when she checks in or returns.
    I would say not in the least. MSQ is written well in advance, and practically every expansion has a major character we meet, has a huge role in that expansion, and then stays wherever they are as we move on (think Aymeric in HW, Hien in SB, Emet Selch in ShB, etc.). Wuk Lamat is nothing more than the DT version of those characters, designed from the start to be a major figure in the .0 MSQ and early patches, then consigned to the background as we move to a new storyline.
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