Not bellyaching or doomposting, just voicing my opinion here because not enough Western players actually do tbh. I kinda liked Eureka but it feels like each iteration has just gotten worse and i probably won't engage with it in future personally.
imo;
Farming CEs just isn't fun (and having to walk to them now??)
Relic Armour makes the initial bar for entry incredibly bleh, since OC only becomes vaguely enjoyable once you've grinded out a set and can actually contribute/not feel like a burden - It reminds me of old PvP where the only ones actually having fun were the few people had that otherwise useless Gear
--Similiarly i don't enjoy having to level Knowledge and a dozen subclasses. This stuff all makes OC feel very boring at the beginning, and decidely less casual since it almost feels like more effort than raiding at this point
Theres a distinct lack of forward momentum as well. It never felt like i was actually making any progress with the Relic frankly
and finally smaller DCs just don't have the population for this sort of content. EU being split across 2 DCs dramatically shortens the lifespan of this already very short-lived content (and i dread to think what its like on OCE)
As a long time player, I think i just fundamentally do not enjoy these types of Relic quests. I liked HW's. That's all (love the new Deep Dungeon though)

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