Thread: 8.0 Selling points

As it says on the tin. With 8.0 heading slowly towards us what do you think will be the selling point that will get everyone interested? what are players thoughts on what jobs or how many.

I know there will be no new races so do you think it could be finally a massive character creation remake?

I am unsure on what we will get but I am hoping the story heads towards something better than DT and I am hoping it is cold and snow ( I love snow) I adored Shadow bringer's and EW as being here from the beginning it felt it all wrapped up and I loved the music everything. DT had a lot to live up too and it did nothing for me. It has had some good things added but the MSQ was not one to me at least.

I really hope they do the CC it is so dated.

I am not expecting huge changes in 8.0, but what I would like to see is some player choice again.

When content had say, 2 tanks, one could have tank stance on, the other had dps stance, this was cool to me. Cleric stance was also cool. Instead of that return to old formula, let characters actually "specialize" their character some. Perhaps via a change to how materia functions or an actual "talent tree" system could work. Heck even old school FFXI with the merit system could be an option to look into. The stale "raise the level cap" system doesn't really tickle the synapses like it used to.

I would really like to see less bland use of "mp" tossed into the mix. Jobs that dont even use MP still get the standard 10k mp bar. That looks sloppy to me.

A true "conbat revamp" may not even be possible at this point, because it seems like they target any complexity and erode it away as if that is some root cause of corruption. Sad really.

I always thought glamour freedom would be an expansion selling point, like how dual dye channel was (and literally the most cheered on DT feature lol)... I'm not complaining that we'll get that in a patch out of the blue, but with that out of the way...

The only thing left I feel that's going to carry 8.0's selling hype (pre-expansion) got to be the new job(s) and the rework to the old ones. We can't really count on the story (usually XIV's big fish) to sell the expansion after we had in Dawntrail - not saying it's going to be bad, but I don't feel it's the kind of thing we'd be able to gauge before actually experiencing it, especially when they reveal so little.

What else can sell 8.0? New battle content?... Honestly anything "new" in that regard can only be judged in actual practice, so the best shot we have is at old stuff that is considered problematic today.

Originally Posted by Rabblerabble

A true "conbat revamp" may not even be possible at this point, because it seems like they target any complexity and erode it away as if that is some root cause of corruption. Sad really.

The erosion of job complexity was at the request of the battle team as they wanted to make encounters harder but couldn’t due to complex jobs. They wanted to make battles faster so they had cast times nearly removed in favor of instant casts.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they did away with MP all together and switch to spell / ability cool down timers.

Hopefully jobs won’t be revamped so simple that it looks like the mobile version.

aww thanks for the replies some really good points have been made ^O^ I do agree about the glamour unlock being a selling point it is a bit of a surprise a good one though.

I hope it is the CC and the jobs are good and the old ones improved.

I feel most of our problems stems from the battle design team wanting the game to be played in their one specific way rather than it being due to feedback from players like YoshiP likes to claim

It's a good question because I'm really not sure.


They already pretty much said that the "big combat revamp" they announced in the DT LLs will not be a thing.

But this point, it needs to be big. Character creation update, glamour update, housing update, UI update (checkboxes etc) - all of which require them to basically remake 11yo code, which I'm not sure is even possible at this point.

Or a completely new system, like login rewards or something (log in 14 days out of a month and get a mount/glam or something, with extra little rewards daily and weekly).

But more of the same old will NOT get people back.

Originally Posted by Luluna

With 8.0 heading slowly towards us what do you think will be the selling point that will get everyone interested?

Great question! My crystal ball says 8 challenging new dungeons, 3 new trials, 2 extremes, new MSQ, new mounts, new minions, new TT cards, 6 new field areas and 2 new city states, 12 new B ranks, 12 new A ranks, 7 new S ranks, 2 new jobs.

The advertising material will include content in the patches such as 2 new treasure maps, 12 new normal raids, 12 new savage raids, new ultimates (which means 2), 5-6 new trials and their extreme versions, 3 new alliance raids, new field operation (which means 2 new areas), a new deep dungeon, new variant/criterion, new exploration content that consists of 4 zones for crafters/gatherers, new pvp series, more blue mage and beastmaster updates, maybe a new limited job, even further unbelievable inconceivably inconceivable extra Hildibrand adventures, misc updates to PvP and the Gold Saucer such as a new GATE, CC map and Frontline map.

what are players thoughts on what jobs or how many.

Tank and DPS.
4.0: DPS+DPS
5.0: Tank+DPS
6.0: Healer+DPS
7.0: DPS+DPS
Guess where we're up to next in the formula?
8.0: Tank+DPS

I think Meracydia was de-confirmed, so I'm not really looking forward to the story. Maybe a good thing, I don't trust them with the concept of Meracydia yet after Dawntrail.