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    Player
    Terhix's Avatar
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    Thane Ryder
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I'm sorry, we are supposed to "hold" Abyssal Drain? I just freefire it for damage except for specific dungeons like Mt Gulg. Either way, Living Dead is less of a "must use this" and more a convenience tool. If I'm healing and I see the DRK using it, I'm gonna stop healing and let it trigger so it doesn't go to waste. I appreciate the one or two extra AOEs I get to use instead of using heal GCDs and holding onto other oGCDs. I just think it's efficient to use it, but its a coordination / awareness check.
    If you trust your healer it's kind of a moot point anyway since any healer should have more than enough oGCD heals to keep you healthy, but if you don't trust them then unironically yes. Holding it for couple seconds won't hurt your dps in any meaningful way unless you just sit on it and lose multiple uses over the course of the dungeon.

    LD after EW changes is a fantastic invuln in the content that calls for an invuln, but for dungeon trash it at best gets you 1GCD use of invulnerability itself before you insta heal to full and that's it. The fact that it has a duration and does 1500p of healing vs AD's 500p is cosmetic in AOE, both will top you. I assume you're not struggling with tanking dungeons so this advice might not be for you, but if someone is on DRK and they use LD, get healed before Walking Dead triggers, and then just die as apparently some people say they do, LD is just not the problem in that scenario.
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    GraceHorizon's Avatar
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    Grace Horizon
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    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald_Cain View Post
    Any dungeon run with a competent healer shouldn't even require you to use living dead…
    This. Living Dead is super fun to use, but unless your healer is badly off their game or actually dead, you don’t need it. If you try to get it to proc and the healer doesn’t let you drop to 1 HP, congratulations, you lived. The only exception is if you’ve really bitten off more than you can chew and taken a pull your healer thought they could handle but in fact couldn’t, and ran themselves out of resources trying, in which case … wipe and come back with a smaller pull. It’s a pretty uncommon occurrence and it shouldn’t get repeated much because it’s a big learning experience.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    The other problem with living dead which is why I tend to not let it proc and because I’m confident I can keep the person alive without activating it is the fact that tanks using LD often panic and press it alongside half their mitigation kit so often they make themselves tanky enough that they risk it ending just before if procs meaning they are now on 5% HP with zero mitigation

    I’d rather just use the shield healers natural heal layering to keep them in a decent range than risk of dropping off at the worst time because they panicked and dumped it out with half their mitigation

    And that’s fine, I triaged the situation and the tank lived, is that not the essence of how interaction works in an MMO
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