Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
That's what I've always said, I find that if I have to grind something that's essentially recycled content that's already in the game, then i'd rather be able to pick what I like doing. And then we go back full circle and people come at me for saying that roulettes are different when they actually aren't (by the way, tome steps are literally identical to roulette steps, the only difference is that roulette steps actually restrict the amount of eligible duties, which is arguably worse).

And currently, while it's not the most engaging, tomes are what allow the greatest pick in selection. Like it or hate it, but it's true.
The problem with relics being tome weapons is twofold.

One is what we saw in EW. It was possible (and way to easy to do) to instantly get the relic weapons. No grinding involved, no time commitment, which was the entire purpose of relics before. They were supposed to be a time spender between patches.

The other problem is that it took content away from people like me who liked slowly working on their relic.
I understand that rng drops or long grinds are not for everyone but there are people who genuinely enjoy that type of content and it wasn't right to take it from us.

Personally I found Shb to almost be the perfect spot for relics with a big grind one time and then you were able to get the materials while doing Bozja on the side for example.
Either they go back to that or optimize what we have now in the form of tomestones as the second step TOGETHER with the option of the first step like atmas simply again.


Not directed at you because you seem to only dislike the how of the grind and not the grind itself but I think the relics never should have been changed to begin with towards those who dislike grinds.
There was a target audience and the only thing it needed was finetuning but instead in EW they completely tore it down to make a system for those who the relics where never designed for in the first place.

Nevertheless, I am optimistic. They have proven that they listen, now more than ever compared to the past and already said that the next relics might be completely different.
They seem to have been humbled and slowly get back on the right track.
But I stand by my point that the tomestone fans never should have been the ones to listen to in the first place while showing the middle finger to those who liked the grind.
The change to relics was similar to how they handled the jobs till now, ridiculous.