Can we go back to using tomes to get relics?

[Valence]

CLL, Dalriada, and DRN while we're at it, are basically 6-ish boss FATEs/CEs chained back to back. They are 90% comprised of the "DDR slop" that you despise. (I'll give CLL's prisoners and Dalriada's three hallways a pass.)

That's fair and I'm aware of it. I also used it because frankly, no matter people's opinion on the current pve model, they were quite beloved pieces of endgame content for casuals/everyone.

Still, CLL starts up with extremely creative and unconventional bosses at the wall, which is already a breath of fresh air and requires some team coordination. Next we get to deal with semi rng objectives (captives) to find and save by exploring the place, which feels already a lot more like a real dungeon or raid than the usual boss in a circular arena kind of slop we keep getting in other types of content. I do agree that past that point CLL goes back to what's essentially a DDR boss gauntlet with not much novelty beyond the party of "good players" you have to form at the last boss to go deal with Lyon.

Dalriada also starts trudging through mobs on a ramp and then properly working through lasers while the other part of the alliance deals with the controls, which I find to be a really cool concept, and again promotes team coordination with unusual trash mechanics that are actually close to what you'll find in criterion (notably the sprite section after the first boss in Rokkon). Then again, true, Dalriada just goes back to DDR boss gauntlet.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]Dalriada also starts trudging through mobs on a ramp and then properly working through lasers while the other part of the alliance deals with the controls, which I find to be a really cool concept, and again promotes team coordination with unusual trash mechanics that are actually close to what you'll find in criterion (notably the sprite section after the first boss in Rokkon). Then again, true, Dalriada just goes back to DDR boss gauntlet.

For me, the saving grace was the addition of lost actions. I'm a geek when it comes to their uses and thoroughly enjoys going in with almost any jobs that I pick not because the base job was incredibly good, but because the lost actions changes the way I play them within the content vs outside Save the Queen regions.

It's what kept me motivated to run 255 DRNs in the patch they release Augmented Law Order step XD