We don't need them anymore.

[Kohashi]

Tell me you've never played MMOs before FFXIV without telling me.

The solution to this is to create brand new sets, or carrots, if you will. Not recycle old ones that people worked hard to get under the promise of them being exclusive and limited-time availability only.

How to say you have 0 market/economy sense without saying it.

NOBODY!!! cares about what happened 10 years ago, because nobody lives in the past or gets to eat/ progress/advance forward by reminiscing about the past. The vast majority of players who used to play back then aren't even around anymore, aren't engaged in the game in a meaningful way, and aren't creating anything positive to drive the community forward.

It makes all the sense in the world to bring back old sets that could potentially drive engagement of obtaining them, also bringing back some of those old players that really wanted the particular set but missed out on it.

From a business standpoint is the correct way forward. Not the mention that a game needs to adapt to the new trends and what current and concurrent players want, because they support and allow the company to also push forward. In short, players win, SE wins too.

[Shipp]

How to say you have 0 market/economy sense without saying it.

NOBODY!!! cares about what happened 10 years ago, because nobody lives in the past or gets to eat/ progress/advance forward by reminiscing about the past. The vast majority of players who used to play back then aren't even around anymore, aren't engaged in the game in a meaningful way, and aren't creating anything positive to drive the community forward.

It makes all the sense in the world to bring back old sets that could potentially drive engagement of obtaining them, also bringing back some of those old players that really wanted the particular set but missed out on it.

From a business standpoint is the correct way forward. Not the mention that a game needs to adapt to the new trends and what current and concurrent players want, because they support and allow the company to also push forward. In short, players win, SE wins too.

I'm wondering where your sources are. How are you figuring that most people from back then don't play anymore outside of personal anecdotes? I quit for 8 years at the end of HW and just came back to the game due to a friend that has played since ARR that I originally brought over from WoW. All of my 2.0 friends still play, in fact. I was in the beta for 1.0, played 1.0. Played 1.23. Am legacy and now working my way through ShB, Endwalker, and then DT to get back up to speed.

If limited times exclusives make 0 market/economy sense, then you should probably have a word with all these billion dollar corporations that do that very thing all the time.

[Kohashi]

I'm wondering where your sources are. How are you figuring that most people from back then don't play anymore outside of personal anecdotes? I quit for 8 years at the end of HW and just came back to the game due to a friend that has played since ARR that I originally brought over from WoW. All of my 2.0 friends still play, in fact. I was in the beta for 1.0, played 1.0. Played 1.23. Am legacy and now working my way through ShB, Endwalker, and then DT to get back up to speed.

If limited times exclusives make 0 market/economy sense, then you should probably have a word with all these billion dollar corporations that do that very thing all the time.

You don't get to represent all of the players from back then. You are an outlier, not the norm, and you only represent one, not multiple people. Sure, some people still play after 12 years, but those are very far and in between.

As for the forced scarcity, you already got the answer from a previous person. It's a Dark Pattern used by games that don't even have long-term plans but want to maximize short-term profits. (read as milk/take advantage of the gullible and poor impulse control people)

The market is full of those, but when you have 1 main game that was and still is the ONLY reason you aren't bankrupt and also keeps you afloat while allowing you to explore new projects and ideas, you get to a point where you have to wake up and ensure that it will continue to do so.
I can say, FF14 is still lagging severely behind, while competition is creeping behind them, but at least they are starting to take steps in the right direction.

[Shipp]

You don't get to represent all of the players from back then. You are an outlier, not the norm, and you only represent one, not multiple people. Sure, some people still play after 12 years, but those are very far and in between.

So again, I ask, where is your source for this?

[Astronis]

NOBODY!!! cares about what happened 10 years ago,

You obviously care. This whole thread is full of people who really very obviously care. Be honest about that.

ETA:

Despite the lovely, hard-stuck Gold players' opinions on win-trading back in the day, most Feasters are great with them coming back. They just want them earned again through ranked in the same manner.

Put them on the Commendation Crystal vendor. Seems like the best way to go about it.

[Kohashi]

You obviously care. This whole thread is full of people who really very obviously care. Be honest about that.

ETA:


Put them on the Commendation Crystal vendor. Seems like the best way to go about it.

I actually don't.

I think PVP is ass overall. I hardly engage with it, and I mostly do it only if I want some of the rewards. I played this season a bit more after a 2-year break. I do, however, recognize that while I don't like PVP, there are some who really love and enjoy PVP.

So, in short, even if I don't like a mode or activity, I still am a firm believer that people should be able to obtain and have a chance to get these rewards.

[Shipp]

I actually don't.

I don't like a mode or activity, I still am a firm believer that people should be able to obtain and have a chance to get these rewards.

You do, otherwise you wouldn't be in here arguing.

I just don't get why it has to be these specific cosmetics and not brand new ones. I want NEW content and rewards from SE. Not old ones that were supposed to be limited time only. I didn't get those because I didn't care about them. That's my problem for not having them now. Releasing new and even better ones is what I want from SE.