Will Collector Edition Members ? DEV or Community Rep!

[Aceofspades]

Firstly, i bought the CE back at launch when it was 70€ but comeon that's kinda greedy and completely disrespectful to all the devs work in 1.0 isn't it?

You got your ingame item, a buddy pass that counts as a full copy of the game for a friend AND physical collectables out of your CE, that's more than enough!

Disrespectful?

How do you figure, they charged for a game that was far from ready , and the original developers were outsourced to a company that went bankrupt, hense they didnt give two squirts of piss about the gamers. And because of the way they built the game, SE had to eat crow and rebuild from the ground up hense the reason for a 2.0 release. No im sorry, what we got was essentually worthless before the fail. A sketch book, a token, a dvd and an ingame item that was worthless even back then.

NO , whats disrespectfull is targeting an obviously loyal following, charging them for two coppies of a unfinished game with every intent to charge a monthly fee. Lets not forget, Before the fall out, SE had intended to make money off this game, and if it wasnt for the outlash of the gamers there would have been no free trial for a year and no 2.0 version. SE has yet to deliver on the CE and although I havent asked or even expected anything since, allowing CE buyers to get first dibs on 2.0 would be fitting, besides why would anyone care, not like many of the CE buyers still play, would leave ample space for others.

[Orophin]

Also we did pay for a complete game so we can argue all night long but my question was there anything to it If we get in to beta or not its up to SE all i wanted to know if we would be getting in. im not demanding or arguing the fact just want to know the info if they say no then no ill wait and pay in 2.0 just hat simple .

you coming and saying we got ingame items is plain stupid yes stupid if you leveled in this game you never used any of it if you want to run fast get on archer/brd . but thank you for your opinion

Well actually you started your whole thing off by calling it a collector's edition beta and you sounded like you wanted some kind of recompense by getting early access to the beta just because you bought the CE and the game didn't live up to your expectations.

That's how I took it anyway.

SE has yet to deliver on the CE and although I havent asked or even expected anything since, allowing CE buyers to get first dibs on 2.0 would be fitting, besides why would anyone care, not like many of the CE buyers still play, would leave ample space for others.

So the people that bought the standard edition of the game don't have the right to feel as shafted as the people that bought the CE? I'm pretty sure they both played the same game at launch.

[Yumi_Hibiki]

Disrespectful?

How do you figure, they charged for a game that was far from ready , and the original developers were outsourced to a company that went bankrupt, hense they didnt give two squirts of piss about the gamers. And because of the way they built the game, SE had to eat crow and rebuild from the ground up hense the reason for a 2.0 release. No im sorry, what we got was essentually worthless before the fail. A sketch book, a token, a dvd and an ingame item that was worthless even back then.

NO , whats disrespectfull is targeting an obviously loyal following, charging them for two coppies of a unfinished game with every intent to charge a monthly fee. Lets not forget, Before the fall out, SE had intended to make money off this game, and if it wasnt for the outlash of the gamers there would have been no free trial for a year and no 2.0 version. SE has yet to deliver on the CE and although I havent asked or even expected anything since, allowing CE buyers to get first dibs on 2.0 would be fitting, besides why would anyone care, not like many of the CE buyers still play, would leave ample space for others.

What is Disrespectful is dismissing all the hard work they put into the game the last 2 years and calling it a beta at this stage of the game. (not to mention the obvious wrong use of the term beta to begin with)

Also its been 2 years since the launch, they got practically slaughtered for it by the press and playerbase and officially apologized more times than i care to count, still complaining about it is nothing else than grinding the bones of a long dead horse to dust

[RudyFails]

Will C.E. players get in to beta ver. of 2.0 as to make up for them getting a Collectors Beta Edition which you had to pay monthly for?

Hold it right there!... I don't have a collector's edition and I'm paying monthly. Alright.. where's my pitchfork and torch...

[DAMNLAMA]

I Got C.E. And played since day 1 and the reason i called 1.0 a beta because everything was a testing but we paid to test and give feedback on a game on forums am i wrong ?

A lot of CE didnt stay but most did who played till the end from the worst to the not so worst .

Actually they gave you over a year of free play before charging a dime. When they started charging it was after magor overhauls to battle, armory, and crafting system.plus can u honestly say that the new nal van darnesd quests, ifrit garuda and grand company content is in beta? The only change we really haven't gotten yet is the new engin buy what we have now is far from beta

[Randelmire]

Is WoW's Cataclysm expansion a beta for the Panda expansion?
1.0 is just the base game and 2.0 is for all intensive purposes a free expansion.

It is not an expansion.

[Platinumstorm]

Why do people keep calling 1.x a beta? It isn't a beta, and you clearly don't know what a beta IS.

Absolutely, 1.x was an alpha state because core systems were completely unfinished and were completely redone. However, it can probably be considered a beta at this point in its life.

[Aceofspades]

Actually they gave you over a year of free play before charging a dime. When they started charging it was after magor overhauls to battle, armory, and crafting system.plus can u honestly say that the new nal van darnesd quests, ifrit garuda and grand company content is in beta? The only change we really haven't gotten yet is the new engin buy what we have now is far from beta

1) im not gona judge harsh as my spelling isn't great either but spelling is bad even for my standards.

2) they gave EVERYONE that extended free trial , even after you could buy the game at a fraction of the price it was first sold for.

3) you are correct in saying that what we havn't been playing isn't beta, as it isnt even alpha, a great deal of what we play now is going to change , hell , we wont even have the same maps , soo what we are playing now is essentualy irelivant, what you call it is irelivant as it wont exist after 2.0

4) has SE put hard work into this game since release? Absouletly I agree, but you keep ignoring the fact that EVERYONE reeped the rewards , where is the reward for invested intrest into the game that the CE buyers gave? As of right now, there is none, and that special code that gave us two accounts?... news flash you have to pay for each account soo it wasnt exactly free now was it.

Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.

[Keres]

Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.

What exactly did the CE buyers "pay for" that they haven't received? If your complaint is that the game was bad, everyone's in the same boat.

The price for the CE bought us the extra goods that came with the CE package (journal, security token, right of passage certificate/tumbler, Onion Helm code, etc), nothing more. If you were expecting some extra compensation beyond what was in the box, I'm not sure what to tell you.

[Wynn]

I purchased two C.E.s. Does that mean I should have even more right to get into beta than you, OP?

We had access to the game for a year without any kind of a subscription fee. If you didn't get your money's worth from your C.E. purchase out of that, that's on you.

I don't believe anyone should get priority over anyone else. Betas are about finding and stamping out as many bugs as possible before launch. Anyone with OP's message of entitlement shouldn't ever be invited to any beta. They clearly have no idea what it means to beta test nor would they be interested in doing so anyway.

Hugs and kisses,

Wynn