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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    I Got C.E. And played since day 1 and the reason i called 1.0 a beta because everything was a testing but we paid to test and give feedback on a game on forums am i wrong ?

    A lot of CE didnt stay but most did who played till the end from the worst to the not so worst .
    Actually they gave you over a year of free play before charging a dime. When they started charging it was after magor overhauls to battle, armory, and crafting system.plus can u honestly say that the new nal van darnesd quests, ifrit garuda and grand company content is in beta? The only change we really haven't gotten yet is the new engin buy what we have now is far from beta
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAMNLAMA View Post
    Actually they gave you over a year of free play before charging a dime. When they started charging it was after magor overhauls to battle, armory, and crafting system.plus can u honestly say that the new nal van darnesd quests, ifrit garuda and grand company content is in beta? The only change we really haven't gotten yet is the new engin buy what we have now is far from beta
    1) im not gona judge harsh as my spelling isn't great either but spelling is bad even for my standards.

    2) they gave EVERYONE that extended free trial , even after you could buy the game at a fraction of the price it was first sold for.

    3) you are correct in saying that what we havn't been playing isn't beta, as it isnt even alpha, a great deal of what we play now is going to change , hell , we wont even have the same maps , soo what we are playing now is essentualy irelivant, what you call it is irelivant as it wont exist after 2.0

    4) has SE put hard work into this game since release? Absouletly I agree, but you keep ignoring the fact that EVERYONE reeped the rewards , where is the reward for invested intrest into the game that the CE buyers gave? As of right now, there is none, and that special code that gave us two accounts?... news flash you have to pay for each account soo it wasnt exactly free now was it.

    Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.
    What exactly did the CE buyers "pay for" that they haven't received? If your complaint is that the game was bad, everyone's in the same boat.

    The price for the CE bought us the extra goods that came with the CE package (journal, security token, right of passage certificate/tumbler, Onion Helm code, etc), nothing more. If you were expecting some extra compensation beyond what was in the box, I'm not sure what to tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keres View Post
    What exactly did the CE buyers "pay for" that they haven't received? If your complaint is that the game was bad, everyone's in the same boat.

    The price for the CE bought us the extra goods that came with the CE package (journal, security token, right of passage certificate/tumbler, Onion Helm code, etc), nothing more. If you were expecting some extra compensation beyond what was in the box, I'm not sure what to tell you.
    its the content in the box in wich im refering to. Do you still have your onion helm? i never even used the code. the gear is/was worthless. If the items in the box are to justify the price then I would say SE overpriced somthing they knew they could sell to loyal followers. If this is how a company treats loyal followers it would build a real incentive to not be soo loyal, at least thats how I would take it. why would i buy a $40 CE when i get the same exact stuff from a $20 basic version or wait 2 months and get it for $10 or less. Where SE has every right to do as they wish, I also have every right to spend my money as I see fit, and its not logical to spend 4x the money on somthing others are getting for 4x less then what you payed. If SE releases a CE edition for 2.0 then the least they could do is give us the online content from that CE, that woud suffice for me, but as there is not talk of that yet, having access to the ACTUAL beta would be fitting for FFXIV's closest followers, not sure how that isnt logical?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    I bought the Collectors Edition and did not quit the game, be more carefull when making general statements.

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    and although I havent asked or even expected anything since, allowing CE buyers to get first dibs on 2.0 would be fitting, besides why would anyone care, not like many of the CE buyers still play, would leave ample space for others.
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    4)where is the reward for invested intrest into the game that the CE buyers gave? As of right now, there is none
    The only thing I can see being 'illegitimized' by 2.0 from the CE would be the "making of a realm" video. You still have the in game item (not any less useful in 2.0 than it was originally), the journal, the token, and the sweet box
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    lol , thumbs up only because the box is kinda cool , only thing , bisdes the journal, that i kept but seriously, no one buys the CE for the extra account lol, If they are gona give us useless gear, at least make it look cool, .... onion helm.... realy? onion helm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    1) im not gona judge harsh as my spelling isn't great either but spelling is bad even for my standards.

    2) they gave EVERYONE that extended free trial , even after you could buy the game at a fraction of the price it was first sold for.

    3) you are correct in saying that what we havn't been playing isn't beta, as it isnt even alpha, a great deal of what we play now is going to change , hell , we wont even have the same maps , soo what we are playing now is essentualy irelivant, what you call it is irelivant as it wont exist after 2.0

    4) has SE put hard work into this game since release? Absouletly I agree, but you keep ignoring the fact that EVERYONE reeped the rewards , where is the reward for invested intrest into the game that the CE buyers gave? As of right now, there is none, and that special code that gave us two accounts?... news flash you have to pay for each account soo it wasnt exactly free now was it.

    Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.
    I apologize for the spelling. I wrote my last post using my phone which is not a good way to type out long thoughts as I have now learned. As far as the CE goes and what was "in the box" you got security token, a journal, and behind the scenes DVD. These are all tangible items which will not go away and are yours forever. The security Token will still be usable for 2.0 as well. The game itself was the same regardless of buying the CE or standard version.

    I could see it being a nice gesture for them to come up with a new "in game" item to give CE buyers but as far as Beta goes anyone who started playing at 1.0 launch has invested just as much time in this game as CE players and the items you get to keep forever justify the extra cost for CE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAMNLAMA View Post
    I apologize for the spelling. I wrote my last post using my phone which is not a good way to type out long thoughts as I have now learned. As far as the CE goes and what was "in the box" you got security token, a journal, and behind the scenes DVD. These are all tangible items which will not go away and are yours forever. The security Token will still be usable for 2.0 as well. The game itself was the same regardless of buying the CE or standard version.

    I could see it being a nice gesture for them to come up with a new "in game" item to give CE buyers but as far as Beta goes anyone who started playing at 1.0 launch has invested just as much time in this game as CE players and the items you get to keep forever justify the extra cost for CE.
    like i said before, im not demanding anything but as you said, a new USEFULL ingame item for CE purchasers would be a good gestuer to those who did spend more then minimal as a signe of their support to the FFXIV campain. However if they would rather opt out and give us dibs on 2.0 content, not only would that be fitting but it would ample to keep that fan base as excited about the ffxiv campain as they were when they reserved thier CE coppies. Ofcourse, SE has no real reason to do this other then to apease faithfull folowers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAMNLAMA View Post
    I apologize for the spelling. I wrote my last post using my phone which is not a good way to type out long thoughts as I have now learned. As far as the CE goes and what was "in the box" you got security token, a journal, and behind the scenes DVD. These are all tangible items which will not go away and are yours forever. The security Token will still be usable for 2.0 as well. The game itself was the same regardless of buying the CE or standard version.

    I could see it being a nice gesture for them to come up with a new "in game" item to give CE buyers but as far as Beta goes anyone who started playing at 1.0 launch has invested just as much time in this game as CE players and the items you get to keep forever justify the extra cost for CE.
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    How the game was made game and music are made (under tanaka) - trash
    buddy pass - added money to be spent
    token - mine came messed up had to buy new one (yey se )
    birth cert- never got it
    journal - ummmm was awesome when yoshida tried to make game of new content coming out and it was all the pictures that are in the book.
    the game 75 bucks of let downs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    I Got C.E. And played since day 1 and the reason i called 1.0 a beta because everything was a testing but we paid to test and give feedback on a game on forums am i wrong ?

    A lot of CE didnt stay but most did who played till the end from the worst to the not so worst .
    I agree for the first part, because that's what we've been doing, regardless as Version 1.0 isn't considered a beta. We've been giving feedback in order for them to create ARR.
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