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[Amage]

I Got C.E. And played since day 1 and the reason i called 1.0 a beta because everything was a testing but we paid to test and give feedback on a game on forums am i wrong ?

A lot of CE didnt stay but most did who played till the end from the worst to the not so worst .

[Kafeen]

I Got C.E. And played since day 1 and the reason i called 1.0 a beta because everything was a testing but we paid to test and give feedback on a game on forums am i wrong ?

If that's your definition of beta then 2.0 will be beta too. People will still give feedback; adjustments to the game will still be made. Its the way game development goes now, especially with online titles.

[Abadon]

If that's your definition of beta then 2.0 will be beta too. People will still give feedback; adjustments to the game will still be made. Its the way game development goes now, especially with online titles.

Ok im not sure if you are trying to troll, but yes there was a beta test done in 1.0 this was after the alpha test. Just so that you know that means internal testing. Regardless if you paid for the privilege to test it. It still was the beta test. so that you know BETA testing is usually public testing outside thier usual focus group to collect data about the game that they have already packaged and ready to ship. so that means Beta testing does not mean that all the fixes will be implemented but it give the developers a head start to work on them.

Now I do believe the main topic about this thread is whether CE should get any thing. I apologize for my long winded response. but it just eeks me when i see someone drag a Red Herring to change subject and make someone else look incompetent

Personally i think the entire 1.0 is a beta test which is why we got it free for so long.....we only had to start paying when it actually got better...lol

[DAMNLAMA]

I Got C.E. And played since day 1 and the reason i called 1.0 a beta because everything was a testing but we paid to test and give feedback on a game on forums am i wrong ?

A lot of CE didnt stay but most did who played till the end from the worst to the not so worst .

Actually they gave you over a year of free play before charging a dime. When they started charging it was after magor overhauls to battle, armory, and crafting system.plus can u honestly say that the new nal van darnesd quests, ifrit garuda and grand company content is in beta? The only change we really haven't gotten yet is the new engin buy what we have now is far from beta

[Aceofspades]

Actually they gave you over a year of free play before charging a dime. When they started charging it was after magor overhauls to battle, armory, and crafting system.plus can u honestly say that the new nal van darnesd quests, ifrit garuda and grand company content is in beta? The only change we really haven't gotten yet is the new engin buy what we have now is far from beta

1) im not gona judge harsh as my spelling isn't great either but spelling is bad even for my standards.

2) they gave EVERYONE that extended free trial , even after you could buy the game at a fraction of the price it was first sold for.

3) you are correct in saying that what we havn't been playing isn't beta, as it isnt even alpha, a great deal of what we play now is going to change , hell , we wont even have the same maps , soo what we are playing now is essentualy irelivant, what you call it is irelivant as it wont exist after 2.0

4) has SE put hard work into this game since release? Absouletly I agree, but you keep ignoring the fact that EVERYONE reeped the rewards , where is the reward for invested intrest into the game that the CE buyers gave? As of right now, there is none, and that special code that gave us two accounts?... news flash you have to pay for each account soo it wasnt exactly free now was it.

Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.

[Keres]

Dont get me wrong , I agree that the game has made strides of improvement since release, but your dilusional if you honestly belive those who payed double the release price for CE got what they payed for. If we were to compair what everyone got, the CE buyers basicly payed double for nothing.

What exactly did the CE buyers "pay for" that they haven't received? If your complaint is that the game was bad, everyone's in the same boat.

The price for the CE bought us the extra goods that came with the CE package (journal, security token, right of passage certificate/tumbler, Onion Helm code, etc), nothing more. If you were expecting some extra compensation beyond what was in the box, I'm not sure what to tell you.

[Aceofspades]

What exactly did the CE buyers "pay for" that they haven't received? If your complaint is that the game was bad, everyone's in the same boat.

The price for the CE bought us the extra goods that came with the CE package (journal, security token, right of passage certificate/tumbler, Onion Helm code, etc), nothing more. If you were expecting some extra compensation beyond what was in the box, I'm not sure what to tell you.

its the content in the box in wich im refering to. Do you still have your onion helm? i never even used the code. the gear is/was worthless. If the items in the box are to justify the price then I would say SE overpriced somthing they knew they could sell to loyal followers. If this is how a company treats loyal followers it would build a real incentive to not be soo loyal, at least thats how I would take it. why would i buy a $40 CE when i get the same exact stuff from a $20 basic version or wait 2 months and get it for $10 or less. Where SE has every right to do as they wish, I also have every right to spend my money as I see fit, and its not logical to spend 4x the money on somthing others are getting for 4x less then what you payed. If SE releases a CE edition for 2.0 then the least they could do is give us the online content from that CE, that woud suffice for me, but as there is not talk of that yet, having access to the ACTUAL beta would be fitting for FFXIV's closest followers, not sure how that isnt logical?

[mysterytaru]

its the content in the box in wich im refering to. Do you still have your onion helm? i never even used the code. the gear is/was worthless. If the items in the box are to justify the price then I would say SE overpriced somthing they knew they could sell to loyal followers. If this is how a company treats loyal followers it would build a real incentive to not be soo loyal, at least thats how I would take it. why would i buy a $40 CE when i get the same exact stuff from a $20 basic version or wait 2 months and get it for $10 or less. Where SE has every right to do as they wish, I also have every right to spend my money as I see fit, and its not logical to spend 4x the money on somthing others are getting for 4x less then what you payed. If SE releases a CE edition for 2.0 then the least they could do is give us the online content from that CE, that woud suffice for me, but as there is not talk of that yet, having access to the ACTUAL beta would be fitting for FFXIV's closest followers, not sure how that isnt logical?

I've read all the replies form you and the OP, and you both sound like entitled crybabies.

[Aceofspades]

lol, thats awsome, we sound entitled, but you would also like to do the new beta having had invested less? wich sounds more entitled? No one is demanding it but if they were going to prioritize who gets to see 2.0 first, would make sense on a logical stand point to give it to those who have invested more capital and time into the game, I pre requested the CE bought it 2 months before it came out, been playing since, you?

[Amage]

I've read all the replies form you and the OP, and you both sound like entitled crybabies.

OMFG bro you a$$clown i could careless if i get into beta why would i was to relvl everything for the sake of argument its a question i been pondering because alot of people went out their damn way to get the damn copy as reg but since only limited amount of CE i wanted to know if they would do something . would it be nice to see the beta would it be fun no start over no thanks . Will the people who stayed get rewarded with any type of early or prio in beta is what im asking I personally dont care really if i do or dont get in . NGKYS