Drop the PoTD req

[a_little_bunny]

I've been trying to get these floors done on just ONE alt for weeks now, and no one queues. I'm in queue for over an hour to get floor 21-30. Nothing in PF. People are not doing this content, and it's blocking people from being able to do something new, because they didn't do content added in 3.35. I'm fine with there being a pre-req, but this isn't it.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Just open your own group in PF? I have no Issues to build a PF Group, so instead of waiting that someone else opens one just do it on your own.

[AmiableApkallu]

Soloing floors 1-50 of PotD is not especially challenging. There's a good guide out there, and in the previous patch, SE buffed Aetherpool gains. An hour spent sitting in a queue could just as easily be an hour spent actually clearing a set of floors.

[Jeeqbit]

SE should get rid of arbitrary requirements generally. You have to do Heavenward's Stone, Sky, Sea unlock to access higher level versions of the same thing, so most people likely never find out that Stone, Sky, Sea exists due to ignoring old quests. You have to do ARR and Heavensward's hunt unlock quests to unlock the hunt systems in expansions, causing some people to be unable to even join hunt parties.

But SE just never fixes or addresses anything hardly. It's all about the new patch content and that is the only thing they focus on, even as the rest of the game falls into irrelevance and disrepair, burdened by years of systems buried upon eachother without being addressed or even noticed by the developers.

Soloing floors 1-50 of PotD is not especially challenging. There's a good guide out there, and in the previous patch, SE buffed Aetherpool gains. An hour spent sitting in a queue could just as easily be an hour spent actually clearing a set of floors.

Soloing POTD 1-10 without any aetherpool is hard. I tried it on a healer back when it released and failed due to lack of DPS/time. I was at literally the last boss as well.

Most likely, that is why they buffed aetherpool to make it more likely you are powerful enough by then.

That said, I did manage to solo the first 30 floors of EO on Red Mage without any initial aetherpool, but our kits are a lot more extensive at that level and you can do virtually anything by that level.

[AvoSturmfaust]

SE should get rid of arbitrary requirements generally. You have to do Heavenward's Stone, Sky, Sea unlock to access higher level versions of the same thing, so most people likely never find out that Stone, Sky, Sea exists due to ignoring old quests. You have to do ARR and Heavensward's hunt unlock quests to unlock the hunt systems in expansions, causing some people to be unable to even join hunt parties.

But SE just never fixes or addresses anything hardly. It's all about the new patch content and that is the only thing they focus on, even as the rest of the game falls into irrelevance and disrepair, burdened by years of systems buried upon eachother without being addressed or even noticed by the developers.
Soloing POTD 1-10 without any aetherpool is hard. I tried it on a healer back when it released and failed due to lack of DPS/time. I was at literally the last boss as well.

Most likely, that is why they buffed aetherpool to make it more likely you are powerful enough by then.

That said, I did manage to solo the first 30 floors of EO on Red Mage without any initial aetherpool, but our kits are a lot more extensive at that level and you can do virtually anything by that level.

Yea but like he said, they buffed the Aetherpool Gain, so now Silver Chest gives minimum 5 Level and Defeating any Boss on any Floor gives +10, so it really isnt hard at all anymore to solo 1-50

[Myotis]

I don't see why someone should start a deep dungeon expirience with the oldest content in existance.
The game itself should be more welcoming towards the new players.

[AmiableApkallu]

Soloing POTD 1-10 without any aetherpool is hard. I tried it on a healer back when it released and failed due to lack of DPS/time. I was at literally the last boss as well.

Well, thankfully, today, we have things like the guide I linked to, where you'd learn that soloing on healer is a real challenge, and that there are many other jobs where you'd have an easier time of it.

(Like, seriously, an actually useful criticism of what I said would relate to what the experience is like today, not what people had to suffer through eight years and a million expansions ago.)

I don't see why someone should start a deep dungeon experience with the oldest content in existence.

Fun fact: My first foray into Pilgrim's Traverse was solo. With zero aetherpool and all that. I got through 1-10 just fine, in no small part due to my (solo) experience with PotD. It was basically PotD, but with less ugly scenery and a better soundtrack.

[Cincierta]

I've been trying to get these floors done on just ONE alt for weeks now, and no one queues. I'm in queue for over an hour to get floor 21-30. Nothing in PF. People are not doing this content, and it's blocking people from being able to do something new, because they didn't do content added in 3.35. I'm fine with there being a pre-req, but this isn't it.

Soloing it on dps, especially as a PCT with the changes, makes soloing 1-50 quite easy now, even without max aetherpool. Put sustaining potions on your hotbar that you get from the mobs, eat some food and go to town.

You can also try going on Warrior if soloing as Pictomancer is too much.

[Nadda]

I've been trying to get these floors done on just ONE alt for weeks now, and no one queues. I'm in queue for over an hour to get floor 21-30. Nothing in PF. People are not doing this content, and it's blocking people from being able to do something new, because they didn't do content added in 3.35. I'm fine with there being a pre-req, but this isn't it.

Why not solo it? Or ask some friends?
I’m honestly confused about how playing the game has become an issue here.

You’re asking for the Palace of the Dead requirement to be dropped so you can jump straight into another Deep Dungeon. You do realize they’re all built on the same foundation, right? So essentially, you want the devs to make an exception so you can skip Palace only to turn around and probably quit halfway through Pilgrim’s Traverse, too? It won't get any easier, you know. Potd is a small ask.

Be honest, Do you really think if the Requirement was lifted, that Pilgrims Traverse would be any different? You’ll ace through all 100 floors in an evening? Of course you wouldn't!
Just look at your progress, and you're already looking for an exit. No, I'm sorry, this is simply whining.

After you clear (And you will clear I don't doubt it if you try) reaching floor 50 the requirement will mean absolutely nothing to you, it will be forgotten from your memory - barely an inconvenience as it was for literally everybody who came before.

And for the record, This isn't some secret that only the legacy players knew about and was kept secret from you, not everybody who has done Potd was even around back then in 3.35, or did it when it was current. I certainly didn't, and I'm not the only one. But eventually, everyone has sat down and done Potd they were doing it in 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0 - and quite frankly now it's the most approachable its ever been.

What have you been doing all this time?

What is stopping you that stopped no one before? Deep down, you know the problem isn’t the requirement. You just need to believe you can do it.
Of course, the system will appear unfair to you when you're starting from the bottom. Just clear Potd.
I know my tone in this has been harsh but you can do it. You will.

My earliest memories of Potd is actually being level 30 sprout back in heavensward doing it for the first time with the person who introduced me to the game. (Because I was told it was a fast way to level) As we got to the higher floors floor 40 I started getting spells I wasn't familiar with and didn't know what I was doing. We wiped. I just wanted to have fun with my friend. And a moment stuck with me because the person who introduced me to the game told me "It's not about having fun... you're just bad at the game"
That still hits the core of me and how I approach the game even now, everything I do in a sense is to prove I'm a good player. What it means to be a Good player that's what has driven me so far. I'm still not there yet. But don't think for a second you can't do this or that it's impossible. Whether if it's with a friend or yourself you can do this.

I know what it’s like to struggle, but you can still do it — I did. PT will be waiting for you.

[Shistar]

I've been trying to get these floors done on just ONE alt for weeks now, and no one queues. [...]

If you're not against coming to OCE and tolerating the higher ping for a little while, I can get a couple of friends and we can get it done with you. Everyone's really busy right now in my group, but we can make it work on a weekend in about a week or two, maybe earlier if I ask some other people, but I won't be there this weekend or the next.