Drop the PoTD req

[a_little_bunny]

I've been trying to get these floors done on just ONE alt for weeks now, and no one queues. I'm in queue for over an hour to get floor 21-30. Nothing in PF. People are not doing this content, and it's blocking people from being able to do something new, because they didn't do content added in 3.35. I'm fine with there being a pre-req, but this isn't it.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Just open your own group in PF? I have no Issues to build a PF Group, so instead of waiting that someone else opens one just do it on your own.

[AmiableApkallu]

Soloing floors 1-50 of PotD is not especially challenging. There's a good guide out there, and in the previous patch, SE buffed Aetherpool gains. An hour spent sitting in a queue could just as easily be an hour spent actually clearing a set of floors.

[Jeeqbit]

SE should get rid of arbitrary requirements generally. You have to do Heavenward's Stone, Sky, Sea unlock to access higher level versions of the same thing, so most people likely never find out that Stone, Sky, Sea exists due to ignoring old quests. You have to do ARR and Heavensward's hunt unlock quests to unlock the hunt systems in expansions, causing some people to be unable to even join hunt parties.

But SE just never fixes or addresses anything hardly. It's all about the new patch content and that is the only thing they focus on, even as the rest of the game falls into irrelevance and disrepair, burdened by years of systems buried upon eachother without being addressed or even noticed by the developers.

Soloing floors 1-50 of PotD is not especially challenging. There's a good guide out there, and in the previous patch, SE buffed Aetherpool gains. An hour spent sitting in a queue could just as easily be an hour spent actually clearing a set of floors.

Soloing POTD 1-10 without any aetherpool is hard. I tried it on a healer back when it released and failed due to lack of DPS/time. I was at literally the last boss as well.

Most likely, that is why they buffed aetherpool to make it more likely you are powerful enough by then.

That said, I did manage to solo the first 30 floors of EO on Red Mage without any initial aetherpool, but our kits are a lot more extensive at that level and you can do virtually anything by that level.

[AvoSturmfaust]

SE should get rid of arbitrary requirements generally. You have to do Heavenward's Stone, Sky, Sea unlock to access higher level versions of the same thing, so most people likely never find out that Stone, Sky, Sea exists due to ignoring old quests. You have to do ARR and Heavensward's hunt unlock quests to unlock the hunt systems in expansions, causing some people to be unable to even join hunt parties.

But SE just never fixes or addresses anything hardly. It's all about the new patch content and that is the only thing they focus on, even as the rest of the game falls into irrelevance and disrepair, burdened by years of systems buried upon eachother without being addressed or even noticed by the developers.
Soloing POTD 1-10 without any aetherpool is hard. I tried it on a healer back when it released and failed due to lack of DPS/time. I was at literally the last boss as well.

Most likely, that is why they buffed aetherpool to make it more likely you are powerful enough by then.

That said, I did manage to solo the first 30 floors of EO on Red Mage without any initial aetherpool, but our kits are a lot more extensive at that level and you can do virtually anything by that level.

Yea but like he said, they buffed the Aetherpool Gain, so now Silver Chest gives minimum 5 Level and Defeating any Boss on any Floor gives +10, so it really isnt hard at all anymore to solo 1-50

[AmiableApkallu]

Soloing POTD 1-10 without any aetherpool is hard. I tried it on a healer back when it released and failed due to lack of DPS/time. I was at literally the last boss as well.

Well, thankfully, today, we have things like the guide I linked to, where you'd learn that soloing on healer is a real challenge, and that there are many other jobs where you'd have an easier time of it.

(Like, seriously, an actually useful criticism of what I said would relate to what the experience is like today, not what people had to suffer through eight years and a million expansions ago.)

I don't see why someone should start a deep dungeon experience with the oldest content in existence.

Fun fact: My first foray into Pilgrim's Traverse was solo. With zero aetherpool and all that. I got through 1-10 just fine, in no small part due to my (solo) experience with PotD. It was basically PotD, but with less ugly scenery and a better soundtrack.

[Jeeqbit]

Well, thankfully, today, we have things like the guide I linked to, where you'd learn that soloing on healer is a real challenge, and that there are many other jobs where you'd have an easier time of it.

Your average person just unlocking some casual deep dungeon content isn't looking that up, and certainly not just to get to floor 50 or 100. It's more of a guide for getting to 200 solo.

an actually useful criticism of what I said would relate to what the experience is like today, not what people had to suffer through eight years and a million expansions ago.

I only know what it was like in Heavensward simply because that was the only time I ever had 0 aetherpool. Realistically, I'm not going to spend all my aetherpool just to test this when the aetherpool is useful to me.

Yea but like he said, they buffed the Aetherpool Gain, so now Silver Chest gives minimum 5 Level and Defeating any Boss on any Floor gives +10, so it really isnt hard at all anymore to solo 1-50

I didn't really remember the details of the buffs and didn't know it was quite that extensive. I was guessing it was more of a minor buff than that like +1, and without having 0 aetherpool again I couldn't imagine if it would help a new player enough. But 5 from each chest should probably get their aetherpool half to cap in the first 10 floors, and if aetherpool is capped for a given floor then everything is easy solo.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Your average person just unlocking some casual deep dungeon content isn't looking that up, and certainly not just to get to floor 50 or 100. It's more of a guide for getting to 200 solo.
I only know what it was like in Heavensward simply because that was the only time I ever had 0 aetherpool. Realistically, I'm not going to spend all my aetherpool just to test this when the aetherpool is useful to me.
I didn't really remember the details of the buffs and didn't know it was quite that extensive. I was guessing it was more of a minor buff than that like +1, and without having 0 aetherpool again I couldn't imagine if it would help a new player enough. But 5 from each chest should probably get their aetherpool half to cap in the first 10 floors, and if aetherpool is capped for a given floor then everything is easy solo.

dont worry happens but yea they buffed it really significant, i started today with it again because i wanted another kinna weapon, of course it involves rng luck to get silver chest spawns but i was already after doing 1-20 on armor and weapon about level 55, so its really insane the increase we have now

[Myotis]

I don't see why someone should start a deep dungeon expirience with the oldest content in existance.
The game itself should be more welcoming towards the new players.

[Cincierta]

I've been trying to get these floors done on just ONE alt for weeks now, and no one queues. I'm in queue for over an hour to get floor 21-30. Nothing in PF. People are not doing this content, and it's blocking people from being able to do something new, because they didn't do content added in 3.35. I'm fine with there being a pre-req, but this isn't it.

Soloing it on dps, especially as a PCT with the changes, makes soloing 1-50 quite easy now, even without max aetherpool. Put sustaining potions on your hotbar that you get from the mobs, eat some food and go to town.

You can also try going on Warrior if soloing as Pictomancer is too much.