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  1. #11
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    UkcsAlias's Avatar
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YumieYumiki View Post
    so you have some control over it.
    By far not enough, since there is a limit of 1 CE and only 1 fate showing up at once (at least, when i was farming you wouldnt see 2 at once), knowing that the CEs can take over 2h before showing up to begin with. You might be waiting for 4 hours in the zone to only get 2 CE chances, and maybe 3 fates. I dont call that control, its still just purely RNG based.

    If CEs and fates both have a 20% chance (i wouldnt be surprised if fates are lower), we are looking at an average of 15 CE's. But the chance of not having them is significant. There is even a 3% chance that you had 0. This means it can take several weeks with even 4h per day of play time. Thats a horrible farm.

    Eureka was a lot more predictable on when they spawn because multiple could be spawned together and its timer was easy to predict, and it didnt care which area of the map you were completing them, they all counted. This made the farm a lot more managable. And for demiatmas they should have done the same. And it can be as simple as: 2x the wrong demiatma? here is an exchange for those! Its not unlikely to have 8x the same miatma, yet still missing 2 of another. And even if its the wrong one, it would still be rewarding to get it, as it then brings progress. And the main reason it was a chore was because you didnt feel any progress was going on.

    Im glad i got beyond that stage of the relic, since it was rng torture.
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  2. #12
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    Exterior Motive
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    Raiden
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    You do, but the way it's set up it can be unnoticeable to most players, because you don't have to kill as many of the enemies to spawn it.
    That's to its credit. For players who need to spawned a specific CE and therefore need to engage with the way CEs are triggered, farming 30 enemies vs 100 enemies is just a matter of how much time it consumes.
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  3. #13
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    That's to its credit. For players who need to spawned a specific CE and therefore need to engage with the way CEs are triggered, farming 30 enemies vs 100 enemies is just a matter of how much time it consumes.
    It’s more like farming 5 which just leads to a question of “why even bother it hardly changes anything because you still have basically zero control over anything”
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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