8.0 would be the perfect time to Revamp the Glamour system.

[Jason_Ashford]

I am someone who frequently updates his job wardrobe, usually 2-3 times an expansion. Unfortunately, no amount of creativity can compensate for the fact that some jobs either fall by the wayside compared to others, or the devs favor one job over another that uses the same kind of gear.

Let's use Machinist as an example. I love machinist as a job, I love the kit, I love the playstyle, I love the effects. What I don't love is that Machinist is considered last, or not at all when it comes to gear. 90% of the time, phys. ranged gear looks like it was built for either Bard, or Dancer and Machinist is expected to just deal with it. When i picture a Machinist, I see a fantasy cowboy. A mix of modern jackets with equipment that monitors your gun's integrity and the like, cowboy aesthetic where we wear boots with spurs, or jeans, etc. The vast majority of the time we get equipment that looks like the job wasn't even considered when it was made. A lot of this has to do with the fact that the devs love recycling outfits and giving them alternate colors, but Machinist has been around since 3.0, and here we are a full 10 years later, and they still can't get the Machinist look right. Often times outfits that would be a damn near perfect fit for the job are given to other jobs that don't use the same stats, and i am forced to sit and watch as Dragoon, Paladin, etc. gets to run around in an outfit that would have been my dream glamour.


With 8.0 being the expansion they are using to take a hard look at all the jobs and revamping them, now would be a perfect time to change the way our Glamour system works. In years past Yoshi-P refused to open up glamours, citing that they "didn't want a mage in armor" and so on and so forth. Nowadays that claim means nothing when we have PvP track gear that can put any job in full platemail, or wear outfits so skimpy it would be considered a crime. Why not take this time to open up all outfits to all jobs. If you want to exclude relic gear, that's fine. But everything else should be free game. It's borderline criminal to have outfits that match the aesthetics of a job, but it is locked to a job that very much doesn't match that aesthetic. I am tired of my aesthetic creativity being strangled because the devs seemingly don't want to touch the glamour system with a ten foot pole.

[Supersnow845]

At this point we are just hoping 8.0 revamps everything

The jobs

The content schedule

The backend

The glamour system

The story

Somehow we will probably get nothing

[Masha_Awandah]

I'm sure 8.0 will fix everything! Believe!

Sarcasm aside, if they could fix anything, they would have done so already. We're far past the Godzilla threshold at this point.

[Raikai]

I am someone who frequently updates his job wardrobe, usually 2-3 times an expansion. Unfortunately, no amount of creativity can compensate for the fact that some jobs either fall by the wayside compared to others, or the devs favor one job over another that uses the same kind of gear.

Let's use Machinist as an example. I love machinist as a job, I love the kit, I love the playstyle, I love the effects. What I don't love is that Machinist is considered last, or not at all when it comes to gear. 90% of the time, phys. ranged gear looks like it was built for either Bard, or Dancer and Machinist is expected to just deal with it. When i picture a Machinist, I see a fantasy cowboy. A mix of modern jackets with equipment that monitors your gun's integrity and the like, cowboy aesthetic where we wear boots with spurs, or jeans, etc. The vast majority of the time we get equipment that looks like the job wasn't even considered when it was made. A lot of this has to do with the fact that the devs love recycling outfits and giving them alternate colors, but Machinist has been around since 3.0, and here we are a full 10 years later, and they still can't get the Machinist look right. Often times outfits that would be a damn near perfect fit for the job are given to other jobs that don't use the same stats, and i am forced to sit and watch as Dragoon, Paladin, etc. gets to run around in an outfit that would have been my dream glamour.


With 8.0 being the expansion they are using to take a hard look at all the jobs and revamping them, now would be a perfect time to change the way our Glamour system works. In years past Yoshi-P refused to open up glamours, citing that they "didn't want a mage in armor" and so on and so forth. Nowadays that claim means nothing when we have PvP track gear that can put any job in full platemail, or wear outfits so skimpy it would be considered a crime. Why not take this time to open up all outfits to all jobs. If you want to exclude relic gear, that's fine. But everything else should be free game. It's borderline criminal to have outfits that match the aesthetics of a job, but it is locked to a job that very much doesn't match that aesthetic. I am tired of my aesthetic creativity being strangled because the devs seemingly don't want to touch the glamour system with a ten foot pole.

I agree with the OP, just not the notion that the aiming sets cater to DNC. Most of the stuff resembles something a BRD would wear, with MCH coming a bit second when there's some of modern flavor to those items.

DNC however, comes at the bottom of the barrel. I think we can count in one hand the number of aiming sets that are a good fit for DNC's fantasy.

[Khryseis_Astra]

With 8.0 being the expansion they are using to take a hard look at all the jobs and revamping them, now would be a perfect time to change the way our Glamour system works. In years past Yoshi-P refused to open up glamours, citing that they "didn't want a mage in armor" and so on and so forth. Nowadays that claim means nothing when we have PvP track gear that can put any job in full platemail, or wear outfits so skimpy it would be considered a crime. Why not take this time to open up all outfits to all jobs. If you want to exclude relic gear, that's fine. But everything else should be free game. It's borderline criminal to have outfits that match the aesthetics of a job, but it is locked to a job that very much doesn't match that aesthetic. I am tired of my aesthetic creativity being strangled because the devs seemingly don't want to touch the glamour system with a ten foot pole.

After the Mare disaster, he did make a comment that he’s looking into “giving players more freedom” as to what they can equip as glamors, so let’s hope it’s truly on a to-do list somewhere.

Because despite his comments about a “BLM in armor,” mentioned when EW did that TWICE for tome gear, they have unlocked class restrictions for old gear before. We have gear up to about level 60 or so that was originally restricted and is now either “All Classes” or “Disciples of War or Magic,” with a very small amount of things being one or the other DOW and DOM. They have done it before, and they should start doing it regularly, sun setting the restrictions every time a new expansion comes out, so that only the current expansion gear is restricted.

[Daralii]

After the Mare disaster, he did make a comment that he’s looking into “giving players more freedom” as to what they can equip as glamors, so let’s hope it’s truly on a to-do list somewhere.

Because despite his comments about a “BLM in armor,” mentioned when EW did that TWICE for tome gear, they have unlocked class restrictions for old gear before. We have gear up to about level 60 or so that was originally restricted and is now either “All Classes” or “Disciples of War or Magic,” with a very small amount of things being one or the other DOW and DOM. They have done it before, and they should start doing it regularly, sun setting the restrictions every time a new expansion comes out, so that only the current expansion gear is restricted.

If that happens, I hope they at least do a dye channel pass on some of it, because a lot of it can't be dyed or dyes very poorly. The low res/plastic-y textures are another issue with a lot of old gear, but a basic upscaling pass might make them look even worse.

[Jason_Ashford]

I'm sure 8.0 will fix everything! Believe!

Sarcasm aside, if they could fix anything, they would have done so already. We're far past the Godzilla threshold at this point.

they did a massive graphic overhaul in 7.0, and they've promised job overhauls in 8.0, we're hoping this means a level squish so that we have access to the best of every job at level 50 default and can enter any ultimates with any job without feeling handicapped.

it's not a stretch to ask that they loosen restrictions on gear a smidge, especially when it's as simple as making it disciples of War/Magic, which would dramatically increase the pool of gear i can outfit my jobs with.

[RedLolly]

There are so many gear sets that have incredible design that are lost to time because of class restrictions. I would love to have a single set for everything, and there are a ton of individual sets that fit my tastes, but none of them are the level 1, glamour specific items. Everyone has this problem, too!

At this point, why not unlock everything? Keep stats and labeling as they are, but make everything in the glam chest free to use.

I think relic sets and weapons should still remain locked to their respective jobs, but if my level 100 Gunbreaker wants to wear the Edenmourn Healer top, literally who is that going to confuse? I have a giant Gunbreaker symbol next to my name, even in the one floating over my head.

[ViinaS]

A lot of things should be overhauled in 8.0.
Not cuz it's "time for it", but cause it's long overdue and they haven't been adressed by the devs till now.

Will they do any of it tho?.....Judging by their track record.... let's just say I do have my doubts.

Or rather: No. I have my doubts already about them doing what they advertise for 8.0.
So that those things are adressed instead of another "uh, spaghetti code, lol. Can't do that, small multi-Yen company." are kinda unlikely.

[BlisteringFrost]

they did a massive graphic overhaul in 7.0, and they've promised job overhauls in 8.0, we're hoping this means a level squish so that we have access to the best of every job at level 50 default and can enter any ultimates with any job without feeling handicapped.

it's not a stretch to ask that they loosen restrictions on gear a smidge, especially when it's as simple as making it disciples of War/Magic, which would dramatically increase the pool of gear i can outfit my jobs with.

They promised job overhauls then immediately backpedaled with "Expect everything to feel the same!"

There's no hope my sibling in Hydaelyn lol