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    In order for it to be an in game collab, the majority would have to know about it and care for it. And a lot of people don't. Thus, cash shop for the hardcore fans.
    They could spend all the time in the world making this an in game collab and half the people wouldn't bother because it's just not that appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    In order for it to be an in game collab, the majority would have to know about it and care for it. And a lot of people don't. Thus, cash shop for the hardcore fans.
    They could spend all the time in the world making this an in game collab and half the people wouldn't bother because it's just not that appealing.
    I thought one of the reasons for a collab was to make something known for the playerbase, as some sort of publicity.

    I personally had no idea what Monster Hunter was before the collab here, and only got to experience it because I got to know it in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I thought one of the reasons for a collab was to make something known for the playerbase, as some sort of publicity.

    I personally had no idea what Monster Hunter was before the collab here, and only got to experience it because I got to know it in FFXIV.
    I understand that idea and the logic. But I feel like that's rarely ever the case. MH is extremely popular, as is NieR. People won't do something that doesn't interest them. If they were to make this an in game collab with these same rewards, many won't do them aside for maybe the music rolls. The gear is a very specific type of vibe, and definitely not for everyone. If there was some sort of mount reward, then I think more people would definitely go for it, but glam is a very slippery slope for a collab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    I understand that idea and the logic. But I feel like that's rarely ever the case. MH is extremely popular, as is NieR. People won't do something that doesn't interest them.
    Is this kind of thing so rare to occur? I feel we'd need concrete data to analyze what impact those collabs have.

    Also I always had the impression (by the reactions) the community is more driven for glamours above anything else, because even if you may not like a collection as a whole, sometimes there's a lot of value in the standalone pieces (assuming whatever we get is not an 1-piece set).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Is this kind of thing so rare to occur? I feel we'd need concrete data to analyze what impact those collabs have.

    Also I always had the impression (by the reactions) the community is more driven for glamours above anything else, because even if you may not like a collection as a whole, sometimes there's a lot of value in the standalone pieces (assuming whatever we get is not an 1-piece set).
    It's very normal, and I don't know what that person is talking about. XIII, XV, and XVI are at worst hated and at best financial failures, but all of them had small collab events(and XVI is/was supposed to get a second at some point) and glamour among other things. XI had two events with a glamour set, other cosmetics, and then extra cosmetics in Eureka and now the alliance raids. With Ivalice and both of its major eras being part of the setting, there's no good reason(from our standpoint, unless you own SE stock) for these to be cash shop exclusives.
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    I am disappointed that these didn't get added to the Ivalice Raid we already have in-game. Would've been nice to have an incentive to run older content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    In order for it to be an in game collab, the majority would have to know about it and care for it. And a lot of people don't. Thus, cash shop for the hardcore fans.
    They could spend all the time in the world making this an in game collab and half the people wouldn't bother because it's just not that appealing.
    The purpose of game collabs is to both feed nostalgia so that people will sub or resub into FFXIV and introduce FFXIV players to other games.

    And the entirety of the people will bother because absolutely no one would say no to free stuff and more content. That's a no brainer.

    And I won't get started on my grievances towards the existence of a cash shop in a subscription + expansion based game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BokoToloko View Post
    The purpose of game collabs is to both feed nostalgia so that people will sub or resub into FFXIV and introduce FFXIV players to other games.

    And the entirety of the people will bother because absolutely no one would say no to free stuff. That's a no brainer.

    And I won't get started on my grievances towards the existence of a cash shop in a subscription + expansion based game.
    You can have your grievances towards the existence of said cash shop, but it doesn't take away the fact that that's what keeps funding this game, so we have to take it or leave it.
    While some people will not say no to free stuff there is absolutely no reason in my mind why I would do this collab in game, I hate the gear. So it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    You can have your grievances towards the existence of said cash shop, but it doesn't take away the fact that that's what keeps funding this game, so we have to take it or leave it.
    While some people will not say no to free stuff there is absolutely no reason in my mind why I would do this collab in game, I hate the gear. So it is what it is.
    Crazy. One would normally think that's what the subscriptions, the price on the base game and the expansions are for. Specially since you can't play the full extent of the game without any of them.

    And what you, specifically, do has no bearing on what usually goes with events. Not to mention that really doesn't take away the fact that they're also supposed to spark the interest. If people not being interested in a thing (not to mention the reason can simply be because they don't even know about it) was a basis for not promoting it, advertisement would never exists.

    Not to mention that we've had an entire decade with collab events and references that did not incur additional costs and not all of them with the "very popular" (metrics for the statement TBD) games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    But I feel like that's rarely ever the case. MH is extremely popular, as is NieR.
    And yet, FFT also got their own Alliance Raid too, despite being "unpopular". Yokai Watch got their own game collab too and, then, an expanded one. The game is also riddled with glams and content that takes from the many other FF, and not all of them the massively popular ones, in the series and even some outside the series.
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