Why?

[DPZ2]

When you (general you) create a job designed to be playable by a toddler faceplanting their keyboard, I don't think it's a surprise that they will attract players of similar types one way or another.

Bold of you to assume toddlers have the coordination to even reach the keyboard, let alone clear content. But sure, let’s pretend that’s a valid design critique.

If you want to use hyperbole, at least make it believable. These days, 1-3 year old children are much more excited about swiping through YouTube Kids on a tablet. Toddlers are more likely to point excitedly at the screen while mommy or daddy is running through Dragonsong's Reprise or, heavens forfend, Sastasha, than to be mashing keys like it's a rhythm game.

[IttyBittyShark]

Big cope coming from a white mage main, your job will make casual content slog. Try playing more jobs before you start reflecting on the usual players.

i literally make every dungeon i heal a speedrun what are u even saying XD white mage is the best dungeon healer

[Elephantality]

In fact, 14 caters to endgame raiders far more than it caters to casuals since Dawntrail released. So, I'm not sure where this idea that solo players or casuals are ruining the game comes from. It's like people on these forums just ignore objective reality.

True, I think the game has solo / multiplayer balanced well. I think the duty support dungeons are very good.

for me it is because casual players make everything a slog. i am trying to speed level in dungeons and casuals cannot tell their left hand from their right hand.

Then don't play with them. Play with those that have similar interests to you.

[ShadowyZero]

you shouldn't chase the casual players away >.> they're the ones keeping the lights on for the service at the end of the day not getting bored an bouncing thru thousands of other games a day/week lol i really dont understand those who subscribe to this mentality of casual vs hards if anything this is like a hardcore paradise they get plenty to do every expansion meanwhile the rest are just sitting here bored outta their minds doing the same boring af formula ad nauseum its not fun running dungeons everyday ya know or doing locked out 24 man raids every week... even sidequests have gotten stale from over use of the same formula. an player housing is a travesty an pounzy scheme we were made to fall for all for the sake of greed an force ya to stay tethered to the game at all times. despite the developer sentiment that we should take rests in between patch cycles XD
lets just not even talk about pvp >.> you love it or you hate it enough said lol

[Kohashi]

Nobody hates casual players; they probably dislike, myself included, the way arguments are constructed.

To be able to provide pertinent feedback in general, you do need to have a good grasp of the class/ role, played at all levels of difficulty in a balanced, productive way.

Some tips on how to actually provide constructive feedback:

Use “I” statements.
Provide actionable feedback.
Include positive comments where appropriate.
Make it a conversation.
Maintain a friendly tone.
Be specific.
Be empathic
Avoid assumptions

Now, how many of those "feedback" topics check all of these marks?

[BlisteringFrost]

Nobody hates casual players; they probably dislike, myself included, the way arguments are constructed.

To be able to provide pertinent feedback in general, you do need to have a good grasp of the class/ role, played at all levels of difficulty in a balanced, productive way.

Some tips on how to actually provide constructive feedback:


Now, how many of those "feedback" topics check all of these marks?

Okay but this doesn't suit my narrative so I'm going to either discredit this or completely ignore it.

[RedLolly]

My previous thread was taken down, so I want to explain better and genuinely want to understand...I have been playing this game for about 4 years,a bit after EW release. Since then i am more of a Casual player, There is a percentage of players that despice Casual players for minding their own business. My quention is Why (mostly) Hardcore players,want to drive away Casuals?I have been lurking on the forums and made an account just yesterday,from what i have seen and deducted, some Hardcore players have a deep hate over People that dont play their way, Why should someone should follow the raiders prompt? or the casuals prompt? or Any prompt and not enjoy the game their way? and i am not talking about cheating on PvP that this actually is an issue and i am against also about Cheating. Why Casuals are an issue?

You need to understand that actually taking the time to post here puts you, as a player, in a more intense category of interest about the game than the vast majority of "casual" players.

We CARE about stuff. We want to play better, we want the game to be interesting, we want content that strikes our personal fantasy, we want community, and we're told to come here to voice what we think will benefit the game. Why do some hardcore struggle working with casuals? Because some don't care and that's frustrating. It's often the "don't assume malice when it's likely ignorance," but that's been my experience.

It's actually not that deep.

[RyoXander]

My previous thread was taken down, so I want to explain better and genuinely want to understand...I have been playing this game for about 4 years,a bit after EW release. Since then i am more of a Casual player, There is a percentage of players that despice Casual players for minding their own business. My quention is Why (mostly) Hardcore players,want to drive away Casuals?I have been lurking on the forums and made an account just yesterday,from what i have seen and deducted, some Hardcore players have a deep hate over People that dont play their way, Why should someone should follow the raiders prompt? or the casuals prompt? or Any prompt and not enjoy the game their way? and i am not talking about cheating on PvP that this actually is an issue and i am against also about Cheating. Why Casuals are an issue?

because FF14 is their entire life so anyone who doesn't take it as seriously as they do (e.g., "its just a game" type people) shatters their "reality".