Same communication & speculation mistakes?

[Azurymber]

I understand the whole "secrecy" thing, but now that they can show gameplay and the game is near alpha stages, it really needs to stop.


SE has tried the whole "secrecy" thing before, and it has only brought them trouble.

When open beta was out, people thought that the game was only a quarter of what they would get on official release. If you go back and look at the old forum posts on zam you will see people claiming there will be new classes, twice or three times as many zones (there was a close zone near every atheryte crystal and people thought they would instantly be opened to actual zones, not instances), much cooler looking equipment, a reduction in lag because they were only using 'test servers', and various other things that never came true.

No surprise, when the game was released in the same state as open beta a ton of people quickly rage quit and gave the game incredibly low ratings.

Then the -exact- same thing happened with the first few patches, people speculated that ishgard would open up by christmas, lag would be fixed etc. Once again, disappointment and people quitting.

Then when Yoshi-P took over the -same- thing happened once again.

And now, for what is probably the 4th or 5th time, it is happening again.

By being vague, Yoshi-P is creating rumors and speculation
And when people speculate they generate expectations
And when expectations are not met, most people experience disappointment

[SynysterBlitz]

You're basing this all of speculation... /facepalm..

maybe you should just wait for 2.0 and see the changes first hand before you speculate..

SE is giving out tons of info through interviews etc, and the gameplay presentation imo was great.. they sure let me know they are trying to improve this game..

so please explain all this secrecy.. cause your ranting about something that isn't even released yet..

[Phe]

yeah wait.
everyone wait.
because we waited not long enough yet.
i only know this game is losing me for the ~10th time playing FF7 on PC atm.

i feel like doing some merits in bibiki bay tho.

[Jennestia]

You're basing this all of speculation... /facepalm..

maybe you should just wait for 2.0 and see the changes first hand before you speculate..

We've waited a long time so more waiting isn't hard, however, they also promised a large promotional campaign to begin in middle of August (now) and they're still being reserved about things. Why wait till 2013? They can post their own videos and screenshots to the main website -- they can write their own articles.

Remember the pre-launch party? It didn't take them that long to write out their own information about FFXIV and it's future.

[Hyrist]

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There needs to be away to downvote a player's ability to post new topics to the point where they are disabled from doing so, or erase their threads from the thread listing when placed on ignore.

I have Rokien and Azurymber both on my ignore list, yet, when I go into the general discussion section there are no fewer than 3 topics by them on the listing.

They're on my ignore list, I shouldn't have to see the thread they make. Their incessant thread making is the very issue I put them on ignore to begin with. They can effectively troll the entire forum this way without punishment.

This really is a pox on the forum community.

[SynysterBlitz]

We've waited a long time so more waiting isn't hard, however, they also promised a large promotional campaign to begin in middle of August (now) and they're still being reserved about things. Why wait till 2013? They can post their own videos and screenshots to the main website -- they can write their own articles.

Remember the pre-launch party? It didn't take them that long to write out their own information about FFXIV and it's future.

So all this gameplay presentations and new art designs and Yoshi being interviewed by many gaming sites etc, isn't promoting?

Like what do you guys want? a commercial that plays a million times a day?? Clearly SE knows what they are doing.. they made a big mistake with initial launch but I am sure they know where they stand this time around..

[HiirNoivl]

I wasn't around on forums for 1.0. But judging from 2.0, these expectations/disappointment cycles are generated from people's inability to comprehend the information that was given them, compounded by preconceived ideas of what a game should be. Add in there a good ol' fashion rumormill and you've got a recipe for disaster that's not really in SE's control.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Problem is that the community it self speculate this and that... and now that Yoshi is being more open, ppl should stop speculating and stop end up being disappointed... =.= is annoying as shizzles.

[Hyrist]

I would prefer the careful, calculated advertising to a flood of promises that ultimately don't show in the Beta. Word of mouth will do the information spreading for them.

I'm more anxious for the Beta than I am for more gamplay info at this point. They've dropped info in interviews, Dev responces, Letters, etc to the point where I'm more wanting to actually play the game.

That's when we'll determine whether or not they've made communication mistakes or not. We're still 4 months away from 2013 - there's no huge reason to push promotion for a once-broken game at this stage. Wait until the players can confirm, through Beta Experience, that the game is going to be awesome, before SE starts broadcasting on loudspeaker that the game is awesome now and everyone should give it another chance.

[Jennestia]

So all this gameplay presentations and new art designs and Yoshi being interviewed by many gaming sites etc, isn't promoting?

This is basic stuff they could have shown off ever since they stated they completed the 2.0 client earlier this year -- It's not promotion because even SE themselves said they wouldn't release their own videos and so on which is the exact opposite of promoting your game.

You're fine with bare minimum, that's ok -- however the general population expected a lot more given the amount of hype people were given and this isn't exactly living up to it. Remember these: "All Summer Long" and "Flood of information starting with Gamescom", so no it's doing all that they could be doing. The only mistake made with 2010's launch was releasing it way before it was done, not promoting the game.