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    Elephantality's Avatar
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    Vincenzo Terranova
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    On the other side of the spectrum, there is me that think the average lvl in fl has slightly gone up. It's been a while since I had a team of meatbags that don't understand a thing.
    I have a feeling down the line average skill level will go up and then people will complain that lobbies are too sweaty. Probably will take some time though.
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    RyoXander's Avatar
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    Wiccan Oz
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    The devs should copy competitive games like hero shooters and limit Frontlines to groups of 2 or 3. That way no team has a group of 8 steamrolling everyone with a massively unfair advantage.
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    OliverQ's Avatar
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    Olyvar Queen
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I'm actually surprised at how fast entire teams get BH5 these days. It kinda ruins Frontlines. I feel like 99% of my FL games are losses, because I always end up on the 1 team with like no battle high.
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    Vincenzo Terranova
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I personally would not cry if they removed battle high. Maybe without it, people would be more aggressive and less scared of dying. Full attack at all times.
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I don't see the point of battle high either.
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    BokoToloko's Avatar
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The point of Battle High is to reward playing aggresive and actually trying to score KOs and assistances rather than turning the Frontline into a PvE race (cough cough Shatter).

    The reasons some teams get BH is because they have a premade with AoE setups like DRK+DNC+any class with good AoE damage that mow down players that are clumped with each other, catching them unawares or one of the teams is utterly clueless and lead themselves into a bottleneck to hand out points. And it's not impossible to get BH5. Problem is, half your team will likely only be there to cash in the daily reward and call it a day and, to get BH5, you do need a team to be actually there and not just twiddling their thumbs.

    When you try to grind for the mounts and see your efforts to score a win undermined by the absolute apathy of your teammates, it's hard not to understand why some people would go for the "sweaty comps". Specially if you want to play melees or tanks, since they're way less safe to play solo, making it easy to turn the experience miserable, as not only do you need to check what the other teams do but also what your team is doing, else you get abandoned in the middle of the enemy team.
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 09-24-2025 at 10:14 PM.

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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I get loads of assists (which feel like kills but game doesn't register them as such because animation delays and ping that result in others technically getting final blow). And generally kills too. But I can't say I have BH4 that often for whatever reason. I'm much more concerned with catching nodes nobody else is bothering with, pointing out major objectives like S ranks, pointing out which team or objective we should be prioritizing, defending others capturing nodes, baiting enemy alliances away from what their priority should be, or catching strays from enemy teams. All these things involve a lot of fighting and assists, but battle high doesn't particularly get farmed from doing these things, at least for me.
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    Axl-Lalafell's Avatar
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    Axel Nibbles
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    Exodus
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    3 minutes in? try about half of that... I've seen whole squads already BH5(1 minute 30 seconds) And they are using bots/triggers on their characters through third party programs. Third party programs which are illegal and bannable. So lets say someone's health drops below %50 for the Ninja. Before said person can heal, or if the Ninja even sees the person, the trigger sees the persons health goes below %50 and activates the Ninja's LB within milliseconds on said person before they can even heal. And many many other crap scrips these cheaters use. I regularly see people who don't have swift run around like they are on a mount. I regularly see people getting 20-30 kills which is insane with how much we have to run around. There is so much cheating and bullshit going on in FL, CC, RW, Duels its ridiculous. If i was a newbie GM I could see they are cheating. There are even videos of people cheating and the devs won't use it. Also, premades just mean you join up to coordinate with friends for a win and it pales in contribution what with all these hacks and scrips/bots out there. Lets face it, people use these cheat programs to compensate; and people make premades to have fun with friends and be on a team. Those who use programs in premades together to dominate are really compensating.
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    aXL

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    ChrysOCE's Avatar
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    D'ark Bunny
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Axl-Lalafell View Post
    3 minutes in? try about half of that... I've seen whole squads already BH5(1 minute 30 seconds) And they are using bots/triggers on their characters through third party programs. Third party programs which are illegal and bannable. So lets say someone's health drops below %50 for the Ninja. Before said person can heal, or if the Ninja even sees the person, the trigger sees the persons health goes below %50 and activates the Ninja's LB within milliseconds on said person before they can even heal. And many many other crap scrips these cheaters use. I regularly see people who don't have swift run around like they are on a mount. I regularly see people getting 20-30 kills which is insane with how much we have to run around. There is so much cheating and bullshit going on in FL, CC, RW, Duels its ridiculous. If i was a newbie GM I could see they are cheating. There are even videos of people cheating and the devs won't use it. Also, premades just mean you join up to coordinate with friends for a win and it pales in contribution what with all these hacks and scrips/bots out there. Lets face it, people use these cheat programs to compensate; and people make premades to have fun with friends and be on a team. Those who use programs in premades together to dominate are really compensating.
    sounds more like you are just seething. what video evidence. link to it.
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    Player Exmo's Avatar
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    Exterior Motive
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    Raiden
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    Dancer Lv 100
    BH should make you a glass canon. +50% damage dealt and taken. High risk high reward.

    And killing a player with higher BH should net your team more points than killing one with lower BH.
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