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    The Bibliothecs

    So i just remembered about the Bibliothecs. We only learn about them in the astrologian job story and never heard form them again. Are there any lore bits about them or will we see them in a future expansions. I really wonder what their place will be after the final days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimsan20 View Post
    So i just remembered about the Bibliothecs. We only learn about them in the astrologian job story and never heard form them again. Are there any lore bits about them or will we see them in a future expansions. I really wonder what their place will be after the final days.
    There are some mentions of Sevestre in a sidequest or two, such as "A Literary Delivery" where he winds up ordering a book about Ishgardian Astrology because of how Leveva blackmailed him, leading him to study up on it to see how Sharlayan astrology is being "perverted".

    Quote Originally Posted by A Literary Delivery
    Welcome to Albright Manor! ...Do you have an appointment? Ah, yes, one copy of Ishgardian Astrology: A Comprehensive Theory, just as his lordship requested. I must confess to some confusion, however... What interest would his lordship, an esteemed practitioner of Sharlayan astrology, have in such an outdated Ishgardian discipline? ...Not that I am in any position to question his lordship's reading habits, of course. Ahem. On your way, then.
    You can also catch a glimpse of him in cutscenes when the Forum is gathered as a cameo since he's a member. Predictably, he votes against our heroes.

    However, his concerns are largely petty and overshadowed by the Final Days. And Sharlayan's opening of its borders following the end of its great work basically renders the Bibliothec's whole platform moot. It could be interesting politically to see how he and others like him would respond to this, but ultimately it's not the Warrior of Light's problem anymore and we're unlikely to explore it.

    That said, I would like to dwarven deck him at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikatis View Post
    There are some mentions of Sevestre in a sidequest or two, such as "A Literary Delivery" where he winds up ordering a book about Ishgardian Astrology because of how Leveva blackmailed him, leading him to study up on it to see how Sharlayan astrology is being "perverted".



    You can also catch a glimpse of him in cutscenes when the Forum is gathered as a cameo since he's a member. Predictably, he votes against our heroes.

    However, his concerns are largely petty and overshadowed by the Final Days. And Sharlayan's opening of its borders following the end of its great work basically renders the Bibliothec's whole platform moot. It could be interesting politically to see how he and others like him would respond to this, but ultimately it's not the Warrior of Light's problem anymore and we're unlikely to explore it.

    That said, I would like to dwarven deck him at some point.
    Yea, that is a bit of a shame. But it would be nice to see how it goes in Sharlyayan and it's current government. And it also could be a point where someone from the Forum, like a double agent. Or making a deal with the Winterer, becoming the only ruler of Sharlyayan by giving the heart of Sabik to them for the next expansions or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikatis View Post
    However, his concerns are largely petty and overshadowed by the Final Days. And Sharlayan's opening of its borders following the end of its great work basically renders the Bibliothec's whole platform moot. It could be interesting politically to see how he and others like him would respond to this, but ultimately it's not the Warrior of Light's problem anymore and we're unlikely to explore it.
    Is the Bibliothec's platform moot? Or did Endwalker just constitute a rhetorical loss that they have to rebuild from? The Bibliothecs are essentially isolationist conservatives; they're a political party. Political parties don't die after one policy pillar crumbles, they're just gonna pick a new angle. Hell, they might not even need to; they might just campaign on the events of Endwalker being a mistake and appeal to a base we don't really hear much about!

    'Not our problem' is a big thing here, though. I would adore a game about high fantasy election politics (in fact I did, Metaphor ReFantazio is amazing), but that's not exactly a story that's gonna give us the scale and material that people play FFXIV for; it's gonna be really hard to get dungeons, trials, raids and zones out of the Bibliothecs doing some campaigning on a new policy. I could see it being good material for a role quest, but that hits a separate problem that Sharlayan is poorly-built for that in terms of zones; it'd feel a little weird to do that scale of adventuring only in Old Sharlayan and Labyrinthos.
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