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    FasaiLeFaye's Avatar
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    Fasai Ordelia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhunivelze1992 View Post
    At this point just rename it Crystal Tower Roulette. Please for the love of god, PLEASE do something about this. Make all AR mandatory or put CT in its own roulette or part of MSQ roulette.
    They don't even need to do that.

    Just let us use our max level rotation and abilities. That's the real reason why I hate CT. Most jobs are neutered so hard (with BLM being the worst offender, where the "rotation" is completely different and totally unrelated to the max level rotation) that even the 15 minute run of Syrcus Tower is a slog where I struggle to stay awake.

    Plus, there's the added bonus that if we're trying out a new class, it'll give us a place to practice the max level rotation on live content.

    It's pretty ridiculous that this isn't a thing because it's not like Alliance Roulette is serious content. It's casual content with no serious repercussions on the overall story. Just slap a damage modifier on the damage calculations and we'd be good to go.
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FasaiLeFaye View Post
    They don't even need to do that.

    Just let us use our max level rotation and abilities. That's the real reason why I hate CT. Most jobs are neutered so hard (with BLM being the worst offender, where the "rotation" is completely different and totally unrelated to the max level rotation) that even the 15 minute run of Syrcus Tower is a slog where I struggle to stay awake.

    Plus, there's the added bonus that if we're trying out a new class, it'll give us a place to practice the max level rotation on live content.

    It's pretty ridiculous that this isn't a thing because it's not like Alliance Roulette is serious content. It's casual content with no serious repercussions on the overall story. Just slap a damage modifier on the damage calculations and we'd be good to go.
    i would love this so much. i want to level some other classes, but it feels like i'm not really learning when i don't have access to all of my abilities.
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    Doing the roulette starts CT in a few minutes. Queuing manually for an alliance raid can easily take 20 minutes. How is that even possible? Are there people also queuing manually and waiting that long for CT? Is it trial subs (no idea what those really have access to)? Something else?

    And sure there are some new players now and then that need to run it for the MQ. But very often there aren't any achievement in chatlog for anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    Doing the roulette starts CT in a few minutes. Queuing manually for an alliance raid can easily take 20 minutes. How is that even possible? Are there people also queuing manually and waiting that long for CT? Is it trial subs (no idea what those really have access to)? Something else?

    And sure there are some new players now and then that need to run it for the MQ. But very often there aren't any achievement in chatlog for anyone.
    Alt job leveling is a thing

    and players with lvl 60+ jobs who havent done Void Ark, Mhach and Dun Scaith will also get defaulted back to CT raids, same goes for later AR if they aren't unlocked
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    Last edited by MikeCake; 09-20-2025 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeCake View Post
    Alt job leveling is a thing
    That doesn't really explain it. For leveling you want to use roulettes I think? And roulettes should have some weighting towards lowering wait times. If player A is already waiting for 20 minutes, it should not push people that use the roulette into an ARR alliance raid because player B queued for a alliance raid roulette for 3 minutes with their level 51 character.

    Or is it worth it to manually queuing, and waiting for 20 minutes, for the ARR alliance raids for exp? If so, that is should be be nerfed a bit.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 09-20-2025 at 08:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    That doesn't really explain it. For leveling you want to use roulettes I think? And roulettes should have some weighting towards lowering wait times. If player A is already waiting for 20 minutes, it should not push people that use the roulette into an ARR alliance raid because player B queued for a alliance raid roulette for 3 minutes with their level 51 character.

    Or is it worth it to manually queuing, and waiting for 20 minutes, for the ARR alliance raids for exp? If so, that is should be be nerfed a bit.
    AR roulette also gives huge exp compared to trials and normal raid, so yes players will use AR roulette to level their 51 + jobs

    and for a reason the lower level the duty is the higher prio its gets in the roulette, try queuing for higher level AR at inactive hours, you will see the player count slowly build up and suddenly vanish, cause they have all been sent to do CT for someone else.
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    Last edited by MikeCake; 09-20-2025 at 08:40 AM.

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeCake View Post
    [...]and for a reason the lower level the duty is the higher prio its gets in the roulette, try queuing for higher level AR at inactive hours, you will see the player count slowly build up and suddenly vanish, cause they have all been sent to do CT for someone else.
    Not directed at you specifically (more toward SE tbh): so much for a system that's designed to help duties pop eh... the way I see it, they really need to do something as the system overtly favoring CT raids vs other ARs. Doesn't seem like they're doing their job decently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeCake View Post
    and for a reason the lower level the duty is the higher prio its gets in the roulette
    Something like that would explain it. But we can't be sure if that is exactly what is happening, and even less so if it's intended. As far as I know there has never been any official statements about such a system. But if that is true, intended or not, that would be a terrible design. And should be changed yesterday.
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    My solution would be different, rather than separating CT series into a different roulette, lock the Alliance Raid roulette back up when you have an alliance raid available to unlock, simple and to the point, you would still get CT sometimes, even a bit more than other raids simply because the barrier of entry means there will always be more characters with fewer raids unlocked than all raids, but it would prevent any form of cheesing the roulette by avoiding to unlock raids, or even just people who aren't trying to cheese things but rather can't be bothered to unlock all raids, from bogging things down, and significantly even out the raids. I'd argue the same should be done for Normal Raid roulette, and use that as the opportunity/excuse to lift the embargo they have on those storylines.
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    Last edited by VeyaAkemi; 09-20-2025 at 06:25 PM.

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