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    Please increase aetherwall gained from Alliance Raid Roulette

    Alliance Raid Roulette has a bonus of around 150 for the daily and the actual bulk of the points comes from the raids themselves which makes the grind extremely more tedious since most of your roulettes are gonna be level 50 raids.

    i have done all of my dailies for the past 3 days and my alliance raid aetherwall is 1k points behind all the other ones cause i got 2 ARR Raids and a HW one.
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    I was told, from someone who did a bit of math, if do these once per day ... you should get them full in about two weeks, give or take a day.

    Keep in mind, this is a one-time activity, so it's not *that* bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I was told, from someone who did a bit of math, if do these once per day ... you should get them full in about two weeks, give or take a day.
    The maths isn't very hard to do. Dawntrail duties give you around 700-800 points and you need 10,000, which works out at roughly 2 weeks.

    So OP is correct that if you get just 150 per day for the Alliance roulette, it will take disproportionately longer to do that one step and make the entire thing take 10x as long (66 days or 2 months).

    I haven't done the Alliance Raid roulette yet, but it does seem like it may be a problem unless these "random bonuses" make up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The maths isn't very hard to do. Dawntrail duties give you around 700-800 points and you need 10,000, which works out at roughly 2 weeks.

    So OP is correct that if you get just 150 per day for the Alliance roulette, it will take disproportionately longer to do that one step and make the entire thing take 10x as long (66 days or 2 months).

    I haven't done the Alliance Raid roulette yet, but it does seem like it may be a problem unless these "random bonuses" make up for it.
    You get for each duty category (Alliance, Trial, Normal Raid and High-End Duty) a daily bonus, which totals in about 600-800 points for each element per day, the ~150 points being the base value before its applied. The variation is likely based on where you end up and how long do they take.

    It's likely she didn't get the bonus once.

    Because I stand like this after two days:

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    Last edited by Arrius; 09-04-2025 at 07:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    You get for each duty category (Alliance, Trial, Normal Raid and High-End Duty) a daily bonus, which totals in about 600-800 points for each element per day, the ~150 points being the base value. The variation is likely based on where you end up and how long do they take.
    So do you believe OP has been doing it without the daily bonus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    So do you believe OP has been doing it without the daily bonus?
    It's possible, but it would also be that ARR and HW Alliance Raids generally give less points.

    I did ask someone else from the FC to snapshot me theirs, for its their Day 1 of Aetherwell farming.



    We had:
    Euphrosyne (Alliance)
    Battle of the Big Bridge (Trial)
    Pandaemonium - The First Circle (Normal Raid)
    Lapis Manalis (High-End Dungeon)
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    Aniramil Edlothia
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    I would say ARR raids definitely DO give less. These are my totals after yesterday, 1 roulette run of each category, and my alliance roulette was Syrcus:



    If it takes a little longer to complete that category, so be it, I guess, but this does seem a little shortsighted considering that ARR raids seem to typically have at least a 50% pop chance when queuing for Alliance Raid Roulette...
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    I'm pretty sure this intended, since many new players haven't unlocked all the old AR and now SE figured it would help them out with this 2nd Step.
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    ARR raids do give less, and it is based on expansion, so far it seem things are heavily skewered towards Nier raids, I got 844 from Copied Factory without the daily bonus, and I seen people say they've gotten over 900 from Tower at Paradigm's Breach, comparatively, Jeuno this morning gave me 753.

    The daily bonus for Alliance Raid also seem very small, I got 101 out of the bonus from my daily today, the bulk of your points for Water will come from the raid itself it seem.
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    It's ridiculous to make Alliance Raids give less. This is especially aggravating because they absolutely refuse to update Crystal Tower to make it less awful to run. It remains current content forever, but they just leave it a disaster forever.

    The bonus for Alliance raids is only 101. That is just BS for the fact that it will be giving CT 90% of the time, which gives less points because it doesn't take as long to run as high level raids.

    This design is also unforgivably bad for low pop datacenters. I'm not on OCE, but I immediately cringed at what they had to say about Alliance Raid Roulette being required to progress the relic.

    I'm not convinced the devs have problem solving skills.
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