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  1. #1
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    ThurinTurambar's Avatar
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    Thurin Turambar
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100

    Reverse spread shot / scattergun nerf

    As you may remember mch filler aoe got nerfed by 30 potency in 7.2. From what i assume, that nerf was mostly due to m6s dps check. Not only did mch underperform there, but also did not use the filler aoe in that particular fight due to being send off to deal with the ray puddles and being put on cat duty.
    So i would like that nerf to be reversed, since not only did mch underperform in the aoe heavy fights, but also the tradeoff buffs only affected 90+ level range, while the nerf can be felt in every piece of content that has aoe elements, since spread shot is a lvl 18 unlock.
    And to add more technical point to it: Both bard and dancer aoe is gain on 2 in an unquestionable way. Before the nerf it was the same with machinist, but as it is now it is not.
    As it is now spread shot is the same potency as quick nock, which is pretty crazy considering that machinist is supposed to be the "selfish dps" of the rphys role.
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    Last edited by ThurinTurambar; 09-13-2025 at 08:11 AM.

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    Reginald_Cain's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Reginald Cain
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Square Enix is beyond clueless about the current state of this job. The aoe part of its kit is a disjointed mess that anyone but cbu3 could fix with minor adjustments. Buff scattergun, make autocrossbow reset check and checkmate like heat blast, give queen aoe damage but NOOOOOOOO gIvE machinist dismantle because it's phys ranged which is support jobs except this ones not. Screw whoever is in charge of this job.
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  3. #3
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    brinn12's Avatar
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    Character
    Lua Navkov
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    The damage feels so low that I don't even notice when I press a GCD. The nerf feels especially bad before level 52, when Machinist unlocks Auto-Crossbow, since all the generated gauge can't be spent on a stronger AoE, forcing constant overcapping. So it feels even more like I haven't pressed anything.

    The strangest part is that these two GCDs were nerfed because Machinist's AoE was expected to be too strong with the 7.2 buffs to decaying potencies. In the end, the opposite happened: Machinist ended up feeling like the weakest job in M6S, where you'd see 10 Dancer clears for every Machinist clear. The gap in add-phase damage was around 10%.
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  4. #4
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Character
    Sunie Dakwhil
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    While I like the idea of toning down damage all across the board in lower level older content where every trash pack melts in seconds, this should be done in a sensible manner where it doesn't outright break internal class mechanics or just makes it worth it only under ludicrous requirements (remember the 7+ targets for scattergun before the recent buff that lowered it to 5+ ?).
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao