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    From what I'm gathering is its been pretty much impossible for even big groups to find enough people to fill the party for OC prog, and it is prog as you can't carry players through it.

    I'm sure some more bandaids will come for it eventually but it seems like once again SE has decided they wanted to make content for no one with the shelf life of a week.
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    Just got my 100th clear last night, it was a wild ride. The early days were rough but now that you don't have to instance prog entrance into the duty is effortless. There's currently several Discords with every type of prog point runs happening very regularly, if not daily. Sometimes you need to buckle down and put your nose to the grindstone. Wipes happen. The difficulty is extreme at best. FTB has been out for what, five or six months? Complaining on the forums isn't going to do anything at this point, spend that effort actually learning the fights. If you wanted to do the content you'd do the content instead of saying how much you want to do the content but only if they change every aspect of the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    Just got my 100th clear last night, it was a wild ride. The early days were rough but now that you don't have to instance prog entrance into the duty is effortless. There's currently several Discords with every type of prog point runs happening very regularly, if not daily. Sometimes you need to buckle down and put your nose to the grindstone. Wipes happen. The difficulty is extreme at best. FTB has been out for what, five or six months? Complaining on the forums isn't going to do anything at this point, spend that effort actually learning the fights. If you wanted to do the content you'd do the content instead of saying how much you want to do the content but only if they change every aspect of the content.
    Good for you. Unforunately, you seem to completely missing the entire point of this thread so not sure what your flexing here is meant to accomplish.
    The reason that you need to join multiple different external discords to sign up for potentionally being picked for runs is exactly why this type of content was dead on arrival for the majority of players.
    Square's learned nothing from BA and DR, implemented only the worst bits of both, and needed a shitstorm from the playerbase to even consider the FT fixes. People have a right to complain about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verty View Post
    Good for you. Unforunately, you seem to completely missing the entire point of this thread so not sure what your flexing here is meant to accomplish.
    The reason that you need to join multiple different external discords to sign up for potentionally being picked for runs is exactly why this type of content was dead on arrival for the majority of players.
    Square's learned nothing from BA and DR, implemented only the worst bits of both, and needed a shitstorm from the playerbase to even consider the FT fixes. People have a right to complain about it.
    I actually think they had the system working just fine for DR, but like a lot of Occult Crescent they decided to throw out a lot of the QOL changes made in Bozja in favor of just making something worse. The only complaint I have about DR is the arbitrary 10m wait time to queue which aged poorly into it becoming outdated content.

    But then I've learned this developer absolutely despises patching old content, so I don't think thats getting removed any time soon, and I imagine Forked Tower has already been written off as failed/dead content like a lot of what came in Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    Just got my 100th clear last night, it was a wild ride. The early days were rough but now that you don't have to instance prog entrance into the duty is effortless. There's currently several Discords with every type of prog point runs happening very regularly, if not daily. Sometimes you need to buckle down and put your nose to the grindstone. Wipes happen. The difficulty is extreme at best. FTB has been out for what, five or six months? Complaining on the forums isn't going to do anything at this point, spend that effort actually learning the fights. If you wanted to do the content you'd do the content instead of saying how much you want to do the content but only if they change every aspect of the content.
    No one cares about your 100 clears and these 100 clears won't make forked tower magically better.

    Just like some other person i saw on forums you come here to brag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    No one cares about your 100 clears and these 100 clears won't make forked tower magically better.

    Just like some other person i saw on forums you come here to brag.
    It's optional community driven content. It's not my fault people won't adapt to the way the community has decided to do said content. I personally think BA, DRS, and FTB is some of the best content in the game, which all three have created some of the best communities I've found in the game. I will concede that they should've given a "normal" mode but they didn't, personally I don't think every bit of content that gets released should be able to be mindlessly steamrolled, there needs to be some form of challenge, which FTB delivers on.

    Also, the tower just got better for me because now I can focus more on helping in prog groups and helping to get others their clear.

    The content was really rough in the beginning--I'm very happy with the changes made after initial critiques, they should add the PF listing for BA as well (when resources allow)--and I wish OC's schedule was more expedited because I feel like we should've had something more by now, but I feel like that's more of a critique of DT in general with how weirdly paced most content has been. I bet we'll probably get some kind of duty when the new Pjobs get added, sadly that won't be for several more months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    It's optional community driven content. It's not my fault people won't adapt to the way the community has decided to do said content. I personally think BA, DRS, and FTB is some of the best content in the game, which all three have created some of the best communities I've found in the game. I will concede that they should've given a "normal" mode but they didn't, personally I don't think every bit of content that gets released should be able to be mindlessly steamrolled, there needs to be some form of challenge, which FTB delivers on.

    Also, the tower just got better for me because now I can focus more on helping in prog groups and helping to get others their clear.

    The content was really rough in the beginning--I'm very happy with the changes made after initial critiques, they should add the PF listing for BA as well (when resources allow)--and I wish OC's schedule was more expedited because I feel like we should've had something more by now, but I feel like that's more of a critique of DT in general with how weirdly paced most content has been. I bet we'll probably get some kind of duty when the new Pjobs get added, sadly that won't be for several more months.
    You can yap all you want. I joined multiple discords and got clears, forked tower is bad content that needs more fixes like free entrance and even better: normal mode.

    You with 100 clears probably now joined bots that do pots, not surprising to see infamy of blood people hanging around there only pulling one pack of mobs in specific location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    You can yap all you want. I joined multiple discords and got clears, forked tower is bad content that needs more fixes like free entrance and even better: normal mode.

    You with 100 clears probably now joined bots that do pots, not surprising to see infamy of blood people hanging around there only pulling one pack of mobs in specific location.
    Such an unpleasant response. Almost as unpleasant as doing pots. Go engage in bad faith conversations with someone else.
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    Again why do people argue in circles when the problem of forked is so damn obvious

    The content can be good or it can be bad, it’s kinda irrelevant to the situation, the problem is the way the content simply breaks OC itself and that’s a wider issue than opinion on whether forked itself is good or not
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Streamer exclusive content. Please, enjoy.
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