Red Mage idea

[Duelle]

could someone explain the obsession/fascination with RDM? Ive never play XI, but from limited experience playing/using RDM in other titles, it seems.. half baked

It's unfinished business for those of us from the melee camp. The crowd that got urinated on by FFXI's playerbase because having the Red Mage spam cures, refresh and haste was more useful to them than letting the melee mage be a melee mage. The developers being scared to death of RDM was the other issue, but instead of doing what any other dev team would have done (read: nerf the hell out of the OP parts of the job) they just let it be. It shows even now because RDM is miles behind pretty much every other job in the game.

We don't want the mistakes of the past repeated, hence the suggestions. Some like the OP, some like the idea linked in my signature.

[Churchill]

You were always welcome to melee as a RDM in FFXI.

Just not in any setting where people were looking to get XP at an efficient rate, down an NM, complete a quest, etc.

[rina_inverse]

but you cant get the best of both, it will ruin the balance
I personally prefer GLA/PLD finally getting that magick sword in the opening movie

[Alokin1988]

Think about it like in FF12. Your red mage could not only do good melee damage, but had the ability to use multiple skills from many classes. Not only could my red mage heal but it could also nuke. Not only could it buff but it could also debuff. It is the true hybrid job.

Don't forget the fact that they are the most stylish job in all of Final Fantasy.

[rina_inverse]

stylish is the same with opinion, if it's other then its obsolete

[Churchill]

People like RDM because its AF traditionally incorporates a fedora/wide brim hat with a feather in it, typically referred to as a "pimp hat".

If XI is any indication, the devoted followers of RDM are both some of the worst players and most vocal.

[Duelle]

but you cant get the best of both, it will ruin the balance
I personally prefer GLA/PLD finally getting that magick sword in the opening movie

PLD holy sword skills are and should be different from magic sword. And who said anything about getting the best of both. You design the job around application of their attacks/spells and build from there. Ramsey's suggestion in the RDM Design thread has the right idea of what to aim for.

[Dawiichan]

Yes, but XII is not a job-based titles, and a non job-based titles tend to be over powered hybrid

Sorry, I'm talking about a different version of XII. I'm talking about FFXII International with the Zodiac Job system. In here there are jobs (12 in total), and Red Mage was what it is in my description(Balthier was my Red Mage).

http://media.photobucket.com/image/f.../zodiacjob.jpg

[Delila]

I see RDM job coming more from Musketeer than GLA. It really makes sense if you think about it. Traditional Musketeers always had the epee sword as well as a gun.

[Andrien]

Musketeer to unlock red mage seems like a more reasonable choice. They do dress like one.