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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashenspire View Post
    So who do you replace in your faction leve scenario? The BLM? The DRG? MNK? So the princess is now a bit easier because a hybrid, who isn't a pure damage dealer, can do their mediocre damage during all phases. But the first phase is tougher, as everyone has to wait for the hybrid who, again, not a pure damage dealer, has to deal with their flan while 2 people just sit there and do nothing. It's a hypothetical situation, but you bring up a good point, which is what I've been trying to make. Balance. Where do you draw that line?

    And no. A hybrid should NEVER EVER EVER be able to fill a role in a party as a dedicated healer/dd as if they CAN do that, then there is never a reason to bring a dedicated healer/dd that can't also bring the utility that a hybrid can. Even if they are a dedicated healer, they have damage abilities. Even if they are a DD, they can bring healing. See the issue there?

    Everyone want's RDMs to come in here dealing awesome damage with their sword, and awesome damage with their magic, all while keeping their party topped off in health, and it's just not a thing that should ever happen. A RDM, imo, should make everyone around them stronger, similar to a BRD, but in different ways. Haste, Deprotect, Imperil, these are the things I'd like to see from the RDM. These things should increase the damage/healing of the entire party to an extent that it's more beneficial for the party to bring a RDM instead of another DD that can do more damage than the RDM is doing itself + the increases they're giving to the party. Do you understand, now, what I'm saying?
    Who said that they want RDM to do awesome Magic damage, awesome Sword damage and be an amazing healer? Who said that they are taking a Healer/DDs spot? In a party, there aren't spots specified just for this. It's not like a Red Mage will only take on the healer role, it won't take on only the DD roll. You should NEVER EVER EVER play a hybrid as a single roll when doing content, doing so is only handicapping yourself. It makes the point of being a hybrid completely moot if you can't use your FULL potential.

    You bring up another point, which is where I think I may have written up the example incorrectly. I used the first part of it on how you're thinking of the topic. You're thinking about it as too linear. The BLM, DRG, and MNK focus on one aspect is the way of thought that makes a hybrid 100% useless. Content which focuses on just a single thing locks other jobs out, which completely defeats the purpose. The princess is the focus towards the importance a hybrid can bring to a fight. It's supposed to show how it doesn't just have to focus on one aspect, but can move on to others while the other rolls can't.

    Why do you think that a monk can be more useful in Garuda that a BLM can? The fact that it isn't as limited in the fight automatically increases it's utility in the fight. A Blm can only deal damage to Garuda and Chirada. However a Monk can deal damage to Garuda, Chirada, Suprana and can deal with the plumes that appear on the south winds form. However one can't deny that a BLM can burn down Chirada much faster than a MNK can. Though that still doesn't change the fact that one can not only burn down Chirada but also help on Suprana and help take down plumes gives it more use than a BLM throughout the entire scenario instead of just a single part of the fight.
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    Last edited by Dawiichan; 08-23-2012 at 07:37 AM.

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