Is it just me: Frontline

[Elephantality]

I feel that not wanting to lose is normal. But unless you have at least a full alliance working together developing a guide or secret technique seems redundant.

Maybe that's just me

The guide went over what you can do as a 4 person team, so that actually showed me that is what is needed. I mean, it makes sense because we aren't meant to just 1v1. It does have tips on commanding as well but that's something I will not try until I get good at the mode. Although the team coordination between friends seems more fun than just getting your whole alliance to follow. Like a small strike force. This is why Frontlines is interesting to me. Never have I experienced such a unique mode.

[Vatom]

The guide went over what you can do as a 4 person team, so that actually showed me that is what is needed. I mean, it makes sense because we aren't meant to just 1v1. It does have tips on commanding as well but that's something I will not try until I get good at the mode. Although the team coordination between friends seems more fun than just getting your whole alliance to follow. Like a small strike force. This is why Frontlines is interesting to me. Never have I experienced such a unique mode.

That is a cool perspective I didn't see! A small strike force, I respect that. Ok. Get 4 friends see how far you can influence the tide. Not the guides I've seen but that one seems more interesting, while making the best of what you got.

[Themarvin]

there is no guide for PvP other than the very basics...

this is not PvE Content that follows the same script that everyone can learn and adapt to.

PvP... is about Horde ahead, take points... and don't go in between two groups ending in a crossfire and attacking the alliance that is the most ahead instead of thinking can score points off the underdog.

[Sunhwapark]

I'm not a good player, but I just like to have fun in there.
I'll do objectives where I can, and join contested zones in the instances where there are commanders, but the outcome isn't serious for me.
My favourite times are when I don't even know who won but the battles felt great throughout the match.

[OliviaLugria]

there is no guide for PvP other than the very basics...

this is not PvE Content that follows the same script that everyone can learn and adapt to.

PvP... is about Horde ahead, take points... and don't go in between two groups ending in a crossfire and attacking the alliance that is the most ahead instead of thinking can score points off the underdog.

https://oliguide.carrd.co/

[ChrysOCE]

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Perfect post, wish I could give it more thumbs up

[Trevski]

I’m all for bettering yourself — that’s not the issue. The problem is treating Frontline like it’s more than casual when the mode itself was never built that way. You can literally earn Battle High without a single kill, and it even has extra PvP actions that don’t exist in CC just to keep it from being overly competitive.

I'd argue that it is at least part of the issue because if you are treating FL in an 'unserious' way, there's no reason to learn the game mode or, and I know this is a dirty word for a lot of people, try.

And if we’re using Uno as an example — Frontline isn’t the “save your Reverse card for the perfect moment” kind of game.

Ya, if only there wasn't a big glowy bar...

Writing guides for that and expecting raid-level discipline just misses the point of why the mode was designed in the first place.

I'd argue guides that focus on fundamentals, map quirks, etc. are useful, as well as guides that highlight how certain jobs may synergize with each other. You're attributing things to me that weren't said -- I don't expect 'raid-level discipline' or whatever.

The point of that line wasn’t meant to be inflammatory. It was just to set an even playing field for the discussion so people don’t lean on “I’ve played X years” or “I’m this good” as a way to dismiss others. I want the conversation to stay about the design of Frontline itself, not player résumés.

I would argue that asking folks on a forum, where not many casual Andys are posting on, in the subforum for a game mode even fewer casual Andys care about, would be leaning towards folks who have experience/are enthusiasts and is naturally meant to rile folks up, intended or not.

You’re right that in the literal sense, yes, Frontline is a competition — three teams racing to a goal. My point is more about structure.

It doesn't really matter if it has ladders or whatever. The mode, by its very nature, is competitive and 'casual' games can be competitive.

Should a hypercompetitive, esports attitude be tossed at Frontlines? No. But should people be derided for trying to shotcall or play a team game...like a team game? Also no.

[NevaehQuest]

FL is so chaotic and random it can never be competitive. Tbh now I am not even sure about cc anymore because of the win trading situation. Let just say I don't care about anything just here to yap. Because yapping here is fun.

[Elephantality]

Playing with friends was fun, compared to how I played solo and it was just, suffering. Plus I don't think I lost due to premades, but more so me going along with the team pushing in bad positions, which made it easier for us to be killed. (Of course, my mistake as well) Frontlines is deceptively more complex than one would think. Which is very interesting. (I am trying to restrain my unga bunga and improve my positioning)

[jesseleewelch]

Is it just me that doesn't take Frontline serious? Like this is a legit question. People ask for balance in frontline, upset they aren't winning, making guides, etc.

I'll be honest with you when I care to play I still never took it seriously, it was just great chaos. Balance wasn't a question to me, coordination was the only thing that mattered. Trying to get a whole alliance to follow you was good fun. It's was good exp and a little fun even if I died. Never a test of skill.

So my question again. Is it just me that never took Frontline serious?

Ps. IDC how long you played or how good you are.

Depends on the reason for why you are playing to begin with. If you are "just here for xp/series xp/tomes", then it makes sense that you would just openly not care.

Others DO care. In my case, it is a grind to get my achievements done. I am almost up to my 1500th win (halfway done with all Frontlines achievements) but still have a long way to go.

For people like me, it can be frustrating when i see our score drop 50 points because 6 of my teammates decided to run off and pick a 6v20 fight and get annihilated. It can be frustrating when people tunnel vision the mid oovo for the first half of the match while totally ignoring outer nodes, then they wonder why we behind the other teams by 500 points.

It bites when i start a match and right away my teammates are saying "i have no idea what is going on" or "just here for xp". As soon as i see that, i figure i might as well put in a ball gag and bend over now. I know where this is going...