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  1. #11
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    Rakdos_Grimdarkus's Avatar
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    Rakdos Grimdarkus
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    NO! KEEP ON QUEUEING IN ALLIANCE RAIDS TO MAKE IT ALIVE. do not be selfish also SE should make the QUEUE CROSSREGION
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  2. #12
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    Seraph Variel
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakdos_Grimdarkus View Post
    NO! KEEP ON QUEUEING IN ALLIANCE RAIDS TO MAKE IT ALIVE. do not be selfish also SE should make the QUEUE CROSSREGION
    I don't think people doing relic is going to make OCE roulette queues magically go down in time, also I'd say making DF cross region would be a recipe for disaster and make everyone mad. Just give us cross-DC PF and let everyone region travel.

    Quote Originally Posted by angelar_ View Post
    It's ridiculous to make Alliance Raids give less. This is especially aggravating because they absolutely refuse to update Crystal Tower to make it less awful to run. It remains current content forever, but they just leave it a disaster forever.

    The bonus for Alliance raids is only 101. That is just BS for the fact that it will be giving CT 90% of the time, which gives less points because it doesn't take as long to run as high level raids.

    This design is also unforgivably bad for low pop datacenters. I'm not on OCE, but I immediately cringed at what they had to say about Alliance Raid Roulette being required to progress the relic.

    I'm not convinced the devs have problem solving skills.
    Don't worry, they'll realize in 9 months time that OCE players haven't finished any relics because there aren't enough people to do alliance raids and speed it up by giving 100 extra points for that aetherwell. Please look forward to it.
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    Last edited by Seraph_Variel; 09-04-2025 at 03:58 PM. Reason: Please look forward to it.

  3. #13
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I was told, from someone who did a bit of math, if do these once per day ... you should get them full in about two weeks, give or take a day.

    Keep in mind, this is a one-time activity, so it's not *that* bad.
    Legit how much square enix pay to people like you? Probably 0. Company you defend here won't even know about your existence, while you are making comments like so.

    This relic step is garbage.
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  4. #14
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Honestly I think it’s a collateral damage from the game being designed to push so many of us into CT raids for so long & not other ARs.

    In a hindsight I think the step itself is okay. But in a world where people avoids getting the ‘longer raids’ because the basic daily roulette doesn’t incentivize them enough? Of course that would backfire.
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  5. #15
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Honestly, when we compared notes in the NN day 1 it seemed that for all categories, daily Bonus + base reward averaged out to at least 700 in all categories. With raids and trials mostly being due to high bonuses, Alliance raids having the most base pay by far and high level dungeon Roulette being roughly split 50/50 Bonus/base
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  6. #16
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    Serphie Nox
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    makes grindy content that is meant to last a few months.
    PLEASE BUFF IT SE WE NEED TO GET IT ALL IN 1 day.
    Spends 3 months complaining its no content.
    You all need to relax, its a grind for a reason to keep you busy if they gave it all to you day one you would still complain.
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  7. #17
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    Jak Danyell
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    ARR raids do give less, and it is based on expansion, so far it seem things are heavily skewered towards Nier raids, I got 844 from Copied Factory without the daily bonus, and I seen people say they've gotten over 900 from Tower at Paradigm's Breach, comparatively, Jeuno this morning gave me 753.
    I got over 900 from Orbonne Monastery today so I don't think it's tilted specifically toward the Nier raids, I think some sort of gauging of the duty length and/or difficulty were factored into how much each duty gives.
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    Last edited by SkankyRoe; 09-04-2025 at 06:43 PM.
    I look just like the roes next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park.

  8. #18
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I'm not choosing when the roulette puts me into Crystal Tower by default which happens the majority of the time. So far I've gotten all CT and my Alliance Raid meter is lagging behind by almost 1k. I feel punished by the system while the other options don't seem to suffer from such discrepancies.
    How do I get into the other alliance raid series so I can get actual points from running it please (I can't)?

    Why isn't the daily bonus working like the xp bonus for leveling roulette for example? The bonus adjusts to the base reward of the dungeon you get and fills up the rest accordingly so that your roulette roughly gives you always the same amount for those that don't know. Why isn't this the case here as well?
    (2)
    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Are the point disparities based off of how easy/shorter the older raids are than the later entries? I kind of find it ridiculous that the ARR raids give less than 400 while the Nier raids award between 800-999. I've never bothered to time them but do those raids take over twice as long as the Crystal Tower series?

    If so, then I can maybe understand that, but it still feels a little disappointing when you load-in and find yourself in one of the ARR ones.
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  10. #20
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    Jak Danyell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'm not choosing when the roulette puts me into Crystal Tower by default which happens the majority of the time. So far I've gotten all CT and my Alliance Raid meter is lagging behind by almost 1k. I feel punished by the system while the other options don't seem to suffer from such discrepancies.
    How do I get into the other alliance raid series so I can get actual points from running it please (I can't)?

    Why isn't the daily bonus working like the xp bonus for leveling roulette for example? The bonus adjusts to the base reward of the dungeon you get and fills up the rest accordingly so that your roulette roughly gives you always the same amount for those that don't know. Why isn't this the case here as well?
    It is really odd how the CT raids seem to give considerably less points compared to level 50 duties in the other categories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    I've never bothered to time them but do those raids take over twice as long as the Crystal Tower series?
    The Nier raids are kinda notorious for having health sponges for bosses, even a really good group is gonna be in there for at least half an hour, while LotA and Syrcus take about 10-12 minutes on average.
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    Last edited by SkankyRoe; 09-04-2025 at 06:50 PM.
    I look just like the roes next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park.

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