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    What SHOULD a relic step be?

    What would be your dream of a well designed relic step?

    Disregarding budgetary/time constraints I'd love to see each job do something unique and varied for their step (this could also be relegated to class role). New content we haven't seen that could be synced to keep it casualish friendly with elements of Bosses/RNG/Puzzles/Randomly Generated parts to keep each attempt fresh and varied, but certain consistencies so you can learn and do better with each try until you make it until the end (the final result should feel rewarding and respect the players time).

    The closest thing I've seen to this is the mage tower in Wow which was generally very well recieved from a design point of view.
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    ARR or HW tier with more ways to farm light. Ez.
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    Goji Degotye
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    I hated ARR's relic when it was current but I've come back to the game for the free login event and spent half the time doing ARR relics than progressing the MSQ because it was more fun (as I did the last few times I came back for the free logins).

    With the nerfed grinding, ARR is almost perfect. It touched upon lots of different content and had you travel all around the maps. I despise light farming (and it's still too much) but other than that it was fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    ARR or HW tier with more ways to farm light. Ez.
    I too liked the ARR and how many steps there were. I did think the 9 book step got a bit repetitous but I appreciated the variance (except for the leve portion). I specfically enjoyed charging into the most dangerous portions of zones where mobs attack you and you have to find the mob you needed. Felt great ticking each of them off.
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    Crafoutis Lesalia
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    That's the wonderful thing!

    Ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different answers, lol.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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    Endris Caemwynn
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    1500 tomestones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafoutis View Post
    That's the wonderful thing!

    Ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different answers, lol.
    Doubt it, I'm sure there is a common thread within those hundred responses. Wouldn't it be funny if the majority of the answers are just the same thing worded differently, lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    1500 tomestones.
    I can't decide whats lazier.

    This actually being implement as a relic step in the past or your rage bait attempt....

    ....mmmm probabaly the first part.
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Since this is an Occult Crescent relic, actually keep the content within Occult Crescent.

    Purchase an item with OC gold that spawns special versions of Critical Encounters with higher difficulty, added challenges, more mechanics.
    Purchase an item with OC gold that spawns a Boss Rush Critical Encounter. The more bosses you defeat, the more rewards you earn.
    Challenges. Complete (x)(#) Critical Encounters - Without receiving any vulnerabilities. Keep adds alive while taking down boss. Complete a puzzle to make the boss vulnerable. And more.

    Completing the special CEs will give you light, completing (random) challenges will give you additional light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Doubt it, I'm sure there is a common thread within those hundred responses. Wouldn't it be funny if the majority of the answers are just the same thing worded differently, lol?
    Here are some methods I've seen recommended just off the top of my head:

    Tomestones
    Light grind
    Atma
    Crafted, exclusively
    Crafted, tradeable
    Solo challenge dungeons
    Raid-unlocked
    Trial-unlocked
    RNG grind
    Non-RNG grind
    Time-gated and attendance-based

    What's the common thread that all of them share?
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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