Thread: 7.31 instantly feeling like a breaking point :(

Originally Posted by Crafoutis

I am happy about this Phantom weapon acquisition so far.

You say you're likely to reinstall and resub when Beastmaster comes out, and that's always what the devs recommended as a course of action: If you're bored, burnt out? Step away and come back when you feel like it.

Definitely more than fair that you enjoy it.
Having time to think back, I was more annoyed by having failed to craft the mats on the first step and that added a lot of salt.

Either way, yeah. It's a break for me.
The blu/bst update I just know is something I'll at last be able to enjoy without a doubt, so that would be a good time for me to return and see wether or not the burnout sets in this fast again.

Originally Posted by Halivel

I'd second what Crafoutis said.

10k hours is a lot of time. I don't know for how long you're playing, but I have played 10.5k hours in 11 years. And I definitely took some short breaks during those years, sometimes for irl-related reasons, sometimes because of burn-out (in my case the content that burns me out the most is Savage and, back in Stormblood, very specifically Pagos).

When you play something for this long, you're bound to get tired at some point, especially if you also have a lot going on in real life. Regardless of MMO you're playing, most of them ultimately can be shortly described as "grind and rng, rng and grind", just in different forms. Some of them will feel engaging for you more than others. I'm yet to encounter any MMO that doesn't become a "routine" at some point.

And yes, if you feel like you're way too burnt out - rather than forcing yourself to go on, it's better to take a break. Especially if you don't have a hourse, there's no discouragment against simply unsubbing for a bit and coming back later.

There's plenty of constructive criticism to have with the game, but I feel like in a lot of cases people would benefit from simbly taking a break instead forcing themselves to push through when they're clearly tired.

Well my 10k hours have been across roughly 6 years.
I've definitely hit burnout a few times, the issue here being that it's never really been this sudden or full of immediate rejection for a grind i see in front of me.
As I said it's very likely that I'm just kinda changing in terms of my personal tastes and what I enjoy in games, and perhaps stepping away is regardless the best option for me right now.
I was curious to see what others thought of the update and so far it seems it's just me at the moment.
As I said in the post, I'll definitely come back for the blu/bst patch and to check out zone 2 of oc, but that will have been a huge break by the time it's out so maybe I might be able to take a second crack at the relic grind then.

7.31 bringing all the excitement of a 9 - 5 office job!

There's nothing wrong with your post. These are all common feelings that players have been expressing since Endwalker. CBU3 designed FFXIV so that most of the playerbase only needs to sub for about 3 months a year, maybe 4 in new expansion years. It would be amazing if the new relic step came with fresh content, maybe an update to the Occult Crescent. Of course, that's asking too much. Instead, they tied the new relic "grind" entirely to old content. We don't even need to touch OC.

At least in 7.25, the playerbase still had new PvE content to enjoy if they weren't into the relic grind, but now there's nothing. Even for raiders, 7.3 is abysmal, and it can be fully completed by just subscribing for a single month in 7.35.

We really need an unsubscribe button built in to the game itself. If unsubbing really is such an integral component of Final Fantasy XIV, I should be able to unsub just as easily as logging out. Maybe there'd be a checkmark when you log out saying "Also unsubscribe me from the game". Yoshi-P would be so proud.

Ya know, im not gonna say OP is wrong because maybe they just HATE RNG. Personally I think RNG is fine, grinding is fine, currencies are fine, every content type is fine if used in moderation, rewards are fulfilling, and the gameplay is fun. This team neither uses moderation, give proper reward incentives, nor has a fun gameplay loop anymore. Small amounts of content that each player type wants to do, that they expect to be held up by content we have played for years all the way back to ARR (except even some of the ARR content is more streamlined and simplified now). It's poor game design with cost as the first factor of the design. Yoshi P. said it himself earlier this year when asked about dungeon design. His response was those things need to stay the same because they can perfectly calculate the cost and they have run the numbers and its just enough to keep people engaged........or it was.

Like idk I can play other games with RNG like diablo, and FFXI and it's totally fine, but if the RNG consists of "reward or nothing" for long enough then the design is flawed. RNG needs to be coupled with some kind of value and progression, and rewards are another thing this game is horrible with. So idk. I know this patch isn't getting me to resub any time soon. And honestly I don't see myself even thinking about resubbing until .5, but even then with the way things are being staggered out it may be .55, or like a month before the expansion drops who knows. I guess telling people to go play other games and ignoring feedback when times were good wasn't the best idea.