

When did I mention armour. I said relic. I can make my own items required, but not everyone enjoys crafting and gathering, nor will have the Gil to buy them.Do you dislike crafters making DoW/M gear for DoW/M jobs too? I have 3 Omni crafter alts, I don’t participate in the in game economy. I make and gather all my own mats and make all my own gear. Have for years since ARR.
Good job SE. Content for those of us who didn’t watch from the sidelines for 12 years.
Also all the crying about roulettes being a part of the relic step from other posters… I run with a crew of 3 from ARR going on 12 years. My static from FF11. We do a set or two of roulettes daily in addition to our other weeklies like unreal, and OC/eureka etc.
Good job SE. Content for those of us that do released content already. I like some added bonuses to my dailies.
Any other comments or words you'd like to put in my mouth or are you done trying to be a smart ass?

Did they buff drop rates of the first step?
I don't mind gathering, crafting and... or rather endure tomestone farming....
But I will not throw myself into hours of progress or no progress of pure RNG in OC. RNG as bad as some Gacha Game odds.
Cause after spending a few hours over multiple days in OC spamming CEs (boring old Fate farming), which I hate, I got not a single one.
No it's too early for them to buff the drop rate of step 1 as most ppl have finished like months ago and now doing step 2 which is just rous for now.Did they buff drop rates of the first step?
I don't mind gathering, crafting and... or rather endure tomestone farming....
But I will not throw myself into hours of progress or no progress of pure RNG in OC. RNG as bad as some Gacha Game odds.
Cause after spending a few hours over multiple days in OC spamming CEs (boring old Fate farming), which I hate, I got not a single one.
Also ppl who say I don't want to spend gil on mats OR level my DoH/L then they can just do the DT Ex5 for a weapon, tome wep, or even crafted. The relic has always been an optional upgrade there's been a few expansions I had skipped them since I dislike Eureka and Bozja and it was fine.



I have 2 views on this.Also ppl who say I don't want to spend gil on mats OR level my DoH/L then they can just do the DT Ex5 for a weapon, tome wep, or even crafted. The relic has always been an optional upgrade there's been a few expansions I had skipped them since I dislike Eureka and Bozja and it was fine.
First, it's a pittance. Outside the flat 300k item from an npc, on aether at 11am this morning they were all barely over 100k each, and I am sure the prices will drop significantly in the next few days.
Second, however, is they make the required crafting/gathering stats way too high. They should have leveled them out to be gathered/crafted in scrip gear, high end crafting and gathering should def never have been a requirement.
You can hit the minimum requirements for it in scrip gear and black star jewellery. If you use a tisane and All i pibre you can even 100% macro it.I have 2 views on this.
First, it's a pittance. Outside the flat 300k item from an npc, on aether at 11am this morning they were all barely over 100k each, and I am sure the prices will drop significantly in the next few days.
Second, however, is they make the required crafting/gathering stats way too high. They should have leveled them out to be gathered/crafted in scrip gear, high end crafting and gathering should def never have been a requirement.
They should have made it a high chance that dark matter stuff drops from bronze chests in OC that would have made the bronze chests more valuable and you can skip the crafting part.

To be fair this relic step is pretty good. Have to do roulettes so people can't cheese the fastest one. That seems fair. The first step with crafting is fine too, I don't craft anymore so I just bought the stuff. Gives the crafters a nice wee reward.
Crafting was required for the ARR and HSW relics too, and it was way more challenging to find someone able to do the crafts.
It is probably easy to farm a few FATEs and sell the bicolor gemstone item on the mb then use the gil to buy the dark matters. Just doing the daily roulettes will earn ~100k gil not counting the "in need" bonus. At the rate the material prices are falling, I am not sure how broke the hypothetical player who does not have the gil to buy them would need to be (less than 50k players at level 100 from what SilverTayunn said, I have no clue how this is possible but I remember someone begging others to teleport them around so...).
And if they do not want to do the roulettes, they will be stuck at the next step anyways.
Last edited by Momiji_I; 09-03-2025 at 12:34 AM.
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