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  1. #31
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Exinias View Post
    Roulettes are not a grind.
    Explain how you arrived at that conclusion.
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  2. 09-02-2025 11:12 PM
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  3. #32
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I am firmly against crafting being required for DoW/M relics.
    Crafter's and gatherers get their own.
    If it was collect items from bi coloured gems or silver/gold from OC, absolutely fine.
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  4. #33
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    Kaidence Kimura
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    Ultros
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    I am firmly against crafting being required for DoW/M relics.
    Crafter's and gatherers get their own.
    If it was collect items from bi coloured gems or silver/gold from OC, absolutely fine.
    Do you dislike crafters making DoW/M gear for DoW/M jobs too? I have 3 Omni crafter alts, I don’t participate in the in game economy. I make and gather all my own mats and make all my own gear. Have for years since ARR.

    Good job SE. Content for those of us who didn’t watch from the sidelines for 12 years.

    Also all the crying about roulettes being a part of the relic step from other posters… I run with a crew of 3 from ARR going on 12 years. My static from FF11. We do a set or two of roulettes daily in addition to our other weeklies like unreal, and OC/eureka etc.

    Good job SE. Content for those of us that do released content already. I like some added bonuses to my dailies.
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  5. #34
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    Fenixilius Strife
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    Diabolos
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    Sage Lv 100
    So by that logic, they should make Moon stuff require adventuring classes. Let us have it both ways. This way adventurers can sell stuff to all of you. But we both know Square would never do that. For some reason.
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  6. #35
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    ViinaS's Avatar
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    Viina Sixstep
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 100
    Did they buff drop rates of the first step?

    I don't mind gathering, crafting and... or rather endure tomestone farming....

    But I will not throw myself into hours of progress or no progress of pure RNG in OC. RNG as bad as some Gacha Game odds.
    Cause after spending a few hours over multiple days in OC spamming CEs (boring old Fate farming), which I hate, I got not a single one.
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  7. #36
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akivar View Post
    So by that logic, they should make Moon stuff require adventuring classes. Let us have it both ways. This way adventurers can sell stuff to all of you. But we both know Square would never do that. For some reason.
    Crafting already requires adventuring classes: The latest and greatest crafter/gatherer gear requires materials that can only be purchased with tomestones. All the recipes that require materials dropped from killing mobs or purchased with bicolor gemstones. Etc.
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  8. #37
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaidence View Post
    Do you dislike crafters making DoW/M gear for DoW/M jobs too? I have 3 Omni crafter alts, I don’t participate in the in game economy. I make and gather all my own mats and make all my own gear. Have for years since ARR.

    Good job SE. Content for those of us who didn’t watch from the sidelines for 12 years.

    Also all the crying about roulettes being a part of the relic step from other posters… I run with a crew of 3 from ARR going on 12 years. My static from FF11. We do a set or two of roulettes daily in addition to our other weeklies like unreal, and OC/eureka etc.

    Good job SE. Content for those of us that do released content already. I like some added bonuses to my dailies.
    When did I mention armour. I said relic. I can make my own items required, but not everyone enjoys crafting and gathering, nor will have the Gil to buy them.

    Any other comments or words you'd like to put in my mouth or are you done trying to be a smart ass?
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  9. #38
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    Sy Der
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 66
    They should have made it a high chance that dark matter stuff drops from bronze chests in OC that would have made the bronze chests more valuable and you can skip the crafting part.
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  10. #39
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    Kaidence Kimura
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    Ultros
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    Any other comments or words you'd like to put in my mouth or are you done trying to be a smart ass?
    Not everyone is as miserable as you are.
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  11. #40
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    Asako Natsume
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 100
    To be fair this relic step is pretty good. Have to do roulettes so people can't cheese the fastest one. That seems fair. The first step with crafting is fine too, I don't craft anymore so I just bought the stuff. Gives the crafters a nice wee reward.
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