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  1. #21
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    MayuAmakura's Avatar
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    Mayu Amakura
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    Alpha
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    The rate is just too slow or the items cost too much. It's one of the two to me. It felt like an eternity to get to 3k only to have my first purchase stolen from me because of poor game design. Then my second purchase was the 5k mount and that felt like an eternity as well. I guess piss poor content will do that to you, but that's how I feel. If the rewards were cheaper maybe it wouldn't be as bad, but it just feels like everything in there takes too damn long. I can't give you a breakdown it's just how it felt. I still want that coat for Bard, but honestly, I can't take that place anymore. It's designed to waste as much of your time as possible.

    Anyway, that's how I feel about it. If you don't agree that's fine. I just feel like it takes too damn long to get to anything you want.
    Completely understand your frustration. Silver farming is poor and best way is to just wait for critical encounters as they give the most. This is tiresome as well but way better than running to small fates. Gold ones are still boring because this game doesn't allow you to farm them solo but must be in a group and good luck joining one if you aren't a tank or proper class. So newcomers can suck it. Also indeed it was designed to waste your time at maximum, this is just a thing to make you feel like you have to do something and have "content" because patches are too long. Don't be fooled by it. This is by no mean content if you have to run like a headless chicken for hours to catch fates and then feel miserable about it.
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  2. #22
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Ul Dah
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    Peter Redhill
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    While I dont disagree, they did add Silver and Gold coins to pot FATE chests as well as carrot chests. I know it doesnt resolve the issue, but they tried.
    I still don't even know how those work, lol. I did a pot FATE and the guy told me to give it an elixir from my key items, but I don't have that so I just went and did more FATEs and the pot died. Maybe it's story progression? I didn't pay attention to the story. It's been a red quest this whole time I've been in OC.
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  3. #23
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    My biggest issue so far, it doesnt feel like a social content. Previously, you'd have enough time to chitchat in shout chat, read funny comments and also ask if anybody has a tracker/trying to pop a FATE. As of now, it's an awful 3min check between CE's. You don't even have time to chat with your own friends, cause if you do - you will miss out FATE's or even CE's.

    Also, I almost maxed my 12 jobs and yet, I did not get my Berserker Phantom Job. Yes, RNG is horrible and there should be a pity rate.
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  4. #24
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    Aviatorhead's Avatar
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    Honey Slaughter
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 90
    100% agree with the op. My biggest issue is I just wish there was a normal mode of FTB. I would hate OC 50% less if it felt like I hadn't wasted hours grinding for a dungeon I can't even participate in. The devs not even trying to make a normal mode is just salt in the wound.
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  5. #25
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    CNitsah's Avatar
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    Louisoix
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviatorhead View Post
    100% agree with the op. My biggest issue is I just wish there was a normal mode of FTB. I would hate OC 50% less if it felt like I hadn't wasted hours grinding for a dungeon I can't even participate in. The devs not even trying to make a normal mode is just salt in the wound.
    For me this is the definitive proof they only understood the complaints on a surface level.
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  6. #26
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I still don't even know how those work, lol. I did a pot FATE and the guy told me to give it an elixir from my key items, but I don't have that so I just went and did more FATEs and the pot died. Maybe it's story progression? I didn't pay attention to the story. It's been a red quest this whole time I've been in OC.
    On the fate text at the side of your screen is a tiny little button/elixir icon you click to feed elixir to the pot. It will then give you a direction to travel in until you reach a chest.
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  7. #27
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    On the fate text at the side of your screen is a tiny little button/elixir icon you click to feed elixir to the pot. It will then give you a direction to travel in until you reach a chest.
    That would make sense. My quest window is like microscopic. Thanks for the information.
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  8. #28
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    Yuella's Avatar
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    Boulder Colorado
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 98
    Baldesion Arsenal doesn't have a normal mode and it's totally accessible to casual players. It isn't hard anymore with proper preparation and some communication. Delubrum Reginae normal just feels flat in comparison, just another normal dungeon.
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  9. #29
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    Baldesion Arsenal doesn't have a normal mode and it's totally accessible to casual players. It isn't hard anymore with proper preparation and some communication. Delubrum Reginae normal just feels flat in comparison, just another normal dungeon.
    BA is accessible because elemental armour makes you so incredibly powerful

    A full set of elemental armour halves your damage taken and almost triples your damage given

    Arcanauts armour doesn’t decrease your damage taken and current OC BIS only increases your damage by 40% (majority of which comes from mastery stacks). Even if they doubled the gear stats in north horn (so either increasing the left side to +5 or adding +2 accessories with the same stats) then 52% from mastery stacks and 27% from gear equals 98% more damage but still no reduction in damage taken

    Then when you factor in it’s almost never enrage you actually die to in forked rather being mechanics and this theoretical +26 mastery stacks and all +2 gear being way less accessible than elemental gear and it’s just…..you aren’t going to outscale forked unless they dump SAM entirely as the flat high damage job that does nothing else and introduce something massive like flare star and even then you will have to clear mechanics like fire towers or bridges which don’t care about DPS
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 09-04-2025 at 05:04 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #30
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    SkankyRoe's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Whisky
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    Baldesion Arsenal doesn't have a normal mode and it's totally accessible to casual players. It isn't hard anymore with proper preparation and some communication. Delubrum Reginae normal just feels flat in comparison, just another normal dungeon.
    Baldesion Arsenal is almost entirely "normal mode" level of mechanics and doesn't have a hard cap on how many times you can be resurrected. And as Supersnow already mentioned, the Eureka-specific equipment neuters it even more, allowing some mistakes to be survivable. Forked Tower is full of modern Extreme/Savage level mechanics and and body checks all over the place, with a hard cap of 3 resurrections per person.
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