Everything wrong with OC

[Ardeth]

The drop rates for the Demiatmas and the silver coins are fucking awful. That place feels like a prison. It even ruins the open world by making it more appealing while being a worse choice.

It's like they've learned nothing from Guild Wars 2 when it comes to how to make open-world content.

It's about as fun as a positive cancer diagnosis.

[Supersnow845]

The drop rates for the Demiatmas and the silver coins are fucking awful. That place feels like a prison. It even ruins the open world by making it more appealing while being a worse choice.

It's like they've learned nothing from Guild Wars 2 when it comes to how to make open-world content.

It's about as fun as a positive cancer diagnosis.

I don’t get this logic about the silver grind being too slow. Like if you massively sped up the silver grind what would you do? Run out of content faster?

Like the problem that OC is bad is totally fair. But why are people’s solutions always “make it shorter” rather than “fix why it’s bad”. Like I have 12 mastery stacks and a full set of +2 gear doing the most damage possible in OC and I’m sitting here going “yeah OC has ALOT of flaws but I kinda wish the gear took longer so the content stretched further and they made it more interesting”

Not sitting here going “damn I wish I could get all the silver in 10 minutes and leave”

[Ardeth]

I don’t get this logic about the silver grind being too slow. Like if you massively sped up the silver grind what would you do? Run out of content faster?

Like the problem that OC is bad is totally fair. But why are people’s solutions always “make it shorter” rather than “fix why it’s bad”. Like I have 12 mastery stacks and a full set of +2 gear doing the most damage possible in OC and I’m sitting here going “yeah OC has ALOT of flaws but I kinda wish the gear took longer so the content stretched further and they made it more interesting”

Not sitting here going “damn I wish I could get all the silver in 10 minutes and leave”

It's more than that. I think my first purchase was at level 7 for the map and my recent one was at 17. It's just too slow. 30 and 200 just isn't enough. It's just not. Ironically leveling has been really good. That's about my only positive and it's not bogged down by convoluted systems. It's a straightforward zone. It's just FATE grinding fucking sucks

[Supersnow845]

It's more than that. I think my first purchase was at level 7 for the map and my recent one was at 17. It's just too slow. 30 and 200 just isn't enough. It's just not. Ironically leveling has been really good. That's about my only positive and it's not bogged down by convoluted systems. It's a straightforward zone. It's just FATE grinding fucking sucks

But that still doesn’t really explain anything. It’s slow in relation to what? Knowledge level? Honestly knowledge level is completely redundant and doesn’t even need to exist. Other than that what is it slow against and if you don’t like OC why does silver matter since beyond the riding map it’s basically there to buy arcanauts gear which just has occult effect anyway?

[Ardeth]

But that still doesn’t really explain anything. It’s slow in relation to what? Knowledge level? Honestly knowledge level is completely redundant and doesn’t even need to exist. Other than that what is it slow against and if you don’t like OC why does silver matter since beyond the riding map it’s basically there to buy arcanauts gear which just has occult effect anyway?

The rate is just too slow or the items cost too much. It's one of the two to me. It felt like an eternity to get to 3k only to have my first purchase stolen from me because of poor game design. Then my second purchase was the 5k mount and that felt like an eternity as well. I guess piss poor content will do that to you, but that's how I feel. If the rewards were cheaper maybe it wouldn't be as bad, but it just feels like everything in there takes too damn long. I can't give you a breakdown it's just how it felt. I still want that coat for Bard, but honestly, I can't take that place anymore. It's designed to waste as much of your time as possible.

Anyway, that's how I feel about it. If you don't agree that's fine. I just feel like it takes too damn long to get to anything you want.

[MayuAmakura]

The rate is just too slow or the items cost too much. It's one of the two to me. It felt like an eternity to get to 3k only to have my first purchase stolen from me because of poor game design. Then my second purchase was the 5k mount and that felt like an eternity as well. I guess piss poor content will do that to you, but that's how I feel. If the rewards were cheaper maybe it wouldn't be as bad, but it just feels like everything in there takes too damn long. I can't give you a breakdown it's just how it felt. I still want that coat for Bard, but honestly, I can't take that place anymore. It's designed to waste as much of your time as possible.

Anyway, that's how I feel about it. If you don't agree that's fine. I just feel like it takes too damn long to get to anything you want.

Completely understand your frustration. Silver farming is poor and best way is to just wait for critical encounters as they give the most. This is tiresome as well but way better than running to small fates. Gold ones are still boring because this game doesn't allow you to farm them solo but must be in a group and good luck joining one if you aren't a tank or proper class. So newcomers can suck it. Also indeed it was designed to waste your time at maximum, this is just a thing to make you feel like you have to do something and have "content" because patches are too long. Don't be fooled by it. This is by no mean content if you have to run like a headless chicken for hours to catch fates and then feel miserable about it.

[xbahax92]

The drop rates for the Demiatmas and the silver coins are fucking awful. That place feels like a prison. It even ruins the open world by making it more appealing while being a worse choice.

It's like they've learned nothing from Guild Wars 2 when it comes to how to make open-world content.

It's about as fun as a positive cancer diagnosis.

While I dont disagree, they added Silver and Gold coins to pot FATE chests as well as carrot chests. I know it doesnt resolve the issue, but they tried.

[Ardeth]

While I dont disagree, they did add Silver and Gold coins to pot FATE chests as well as carrot chests. I know it doesnt resolve the issue, but they tried.

I still don't even know how those work, lol. I did a pot FATE and the guy told me to give it an elixir from my key items, but I don't have that so I just went and did more FATEs and the pot died. Maybe it's story progression? I didn't pay attention to the story. It's been a red quest this whole time I've been in OC.