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  1. #21
    Player
    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by vincexorcized View Post
    How are you enjoying monk that much? It feels so handholding now. I loved it before what they did to it. It required actual thoughts and optimisation (for XIV standards) which was nice.

    Now you only press the shiny buttons and job plays for you. Such a frustrating waste to me.
    I preferred Monk before any of its changes too. Stormblood, Shadowbringers, etc. It was one of those jobs where I didn't like the fists aesthetic but I just found the whole thing fun.

    Once I tried out the new version of it while leveling, I did find that fun as well. I had to adjust my approach to playing it to press what lights up though. Most of my experience of the revamped version of it is in leveling dungeons, where a lot of players struggled with the mechanics, so it was fun doing the mechanics flawlessly while also getting the job mechanics and positionals right, when others were struggling even on jobs that involve pressing 1 button.

    But since I haven't played it as a regular DPS since the revamp, maybe it could become boring I don't know.
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  2. #22
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    ovIm's Avatar
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    Vim Mercer
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    > How do you keep having fun with your job(s)?

    By primarily playing PvP
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  3. #23
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    They allegedly have big plans for jobs in 8.0 but they also dont want any big changes for fight design and the 2 minute burst for all jobs is kinda rooted in fight design so I am not exactly hopeful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  4. #24
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    Nyastra's Avatar
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    Character
    Emerson Ney
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I can understand how people get bored. However, I main Dancer which is essentially facerolling my keyboard and possibly En Avant off of whichever cursed platform we're on. Or alternatively, SCH, in which case, I'm usually distracted by something that nearly sends my party to the graveyard and then I have some healing action. Other than that, it's rinse and repeat. Watch YouTube or TikTok on the side honestly.
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    Through twilight, we endure.

  5. #25
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    Seraph_Variel's Avatar
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    Character
    Seraph Variel
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    That's the neat part, I don't.

    I wish I could say I was joking, I just play what bothers me the least to play, which ends up being my 5 mains of choice: Dragoon, Bard, Black Mage, Dark Knight, and Scholar.

    I like to double weave, so I play dragoon and bard. I get mad when I don't crit on all my big hit buttons, and feel like I'm doing something when I get to double weave.

    Black mage I still prefer before the mini rework that it got. I loved the distinction of Potency per second, even if playing at high spell speed feels really bad due to my ping. I still play it because I find summoner and red mage put me to sleep, while black mage doesn't.

    Dark Knight I have to actually pay attention to my mits instead of being able to rely almost entirely on Heart of Corundum/Bloodwhetting. I loathe paladin at low levels, but I do find paladin at high levels to be quite fun as well, for a tank.

    Scholar actually forces me to think a bit when healing. I was terrible at it, but I'm forcing myself to relearn it through my alt I'm currently leveling for raid content.

    Viper and Picto are my 'turn my brain off and do whatever' jobs. I don't have to think about anything besides pumping damage. I keep picto in my back pocket for raiding in the event I need to fill caster and don't want to play BLM, and was originally going to be doing FRU on it, but all my groups ended up dissolving the session I joined, so I only managed to see my way through to Scythe/Axe kick.
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  6. #26
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    Character
    Basteala Thayne
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    As a salty former BLM main I moved on. Went back to RDM. It's not as fun as EW BLM was but at least I don't fall asleep during the rotation.

    2 Min meta needs to die. Streamlining homogenization needs to die. And every class catering to the lowest common denominator needs to die. Sorry-not-sorry.

    We players are people, too. We're individuals. With individual wants and interests. We're not all going to enjoy the same class or content, so please stop trying to make every class the same.
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  7. #27
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    Ephremjlm's Avatar
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    Character
    Ephremjlm Molina
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Yeah NGl if Paladin ever got reworked I would be so bummed. it's the only job that kinda sorta feels like RDM from FFXI. Phys/Magic like attacks, defensives for myself and others, and healing. And now with PD's I can even rez in some instances lol.
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  8. #28
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    Khutulun's Avatar
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    Khutulun Goro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    > How do you keep having fun with your job(s)?

    By primarily playing PvP
    This goes for me as well. In PvP the difference between jobs feels tangible, which is ironic considering how few buttons they work with... and pmuch the lack of job gauges (they're at least not present for any jobs I play, idk if there's a job that has one).

    I get that there's more ways you can interact with an enemy player compared to an enemy AI (at least in the case of FF14's MMO gameplay), but idk how PvE jobs ended up all sharing the same 3-4 gauge mechanics. I don't think many of the rotations are that unique at this point either, although at least Ninja has Mudras.
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  9. #29
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    AnotherPerson's Avatar
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    Character
    Cain Andleft
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    > How do you keep having fun with your job(s)?

    By primarily playing PvP
    I used to have this mindset, but PvP has been losing that fun for me too lately. I'm not sure how else to describe it but the skills and design direction is feeling diluted in a way too. I don't feel much of an impact anymore from PvP as I used to in the jobs. I also noticed there's a lot more people who don't care about the mode or are trying to die faster to get more rewards, which didn't help.

    PvE BLM lost its charm now. PvE DRG lost the fantasy charm that made DRG fun for me. At this point I'm just looking for whatever feels least offensive and unrelated to the 2 min burst meta. Healers as a whole haven't been in a good spot for me for years now, but they got worse to play overtime. Taking a long break from healing didn't change that feeling, it doubled down and made me dislike healing in this game particularly more.

    I feel like I made a mistake to return ever since I came back to try out the Hrothgar hats (my hope was extinguished when the first hat I tried on after I came back didn't work, and then I tried the artifact gears and those hats didn't work also). Anywho, the experience in PvE and PvP is largely unenjoyable for me. I'm more or less convinced the only thing that's keeping me periodically in the game now is just my friends. Now that a lot of them are leaving for various reasons (upset with story, upset with game, drama/etc.), maybe that will be gone soon too. It's disappointing, but that's life too I guess.
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  10. #30
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    Crafoutis's Avatar
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    Character
    Crafoutis Lesalia
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I play a job that I find fun. I keep having fun with it because it's fun.

    I still play Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on the PSP to this day, and nothing has changed in that game since I bought it almost 20 years lol.

    People talk about a "2 minute meta", and I think on Greatsword I've got something like a 7 second meta? At some point, if something's not fun for you, just don't do it. If something's fun, it's fun; if it's not, it's not.
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    WAR don't get changes because they don't need changes. They only need more enemies to cleave.

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