Concerns About Political Neutrality in the Development Team.

[SyferU]

I 100% agree the Warrior of light has been way to nice to those Garlean fascists clearly the Development team is biased.

[Auro_Seldaris]

To repost what I said in another thread...

I agree with the general sentiment. I'm not playing FFXIV to be preached at by anyone on the dev team, or anyone in the community. I'm just playing for escapist fun. Please keep everything at official SE/CSIII/ FFXIV events strictly apolitical and related to the game, thank you.

[Auro_Seldaris]

You said it best yourself. They are entitled to their opinion outside work. So I do not understand what you have a problem with.

That said, political influences make it into creative works. I think Star Trek abolished money or something like that. Just need to remember that it's fiction and to not take it seriously.

Lifelong Trek fan here. It's less about "money doesn't exist" as some kind of political statement, and more about post-scarcity improvment of the human condition, as Carin said. As Captain Picard said in Star Trek: First Contact,

[Raoabolic]

So everyone is going to conveniently forget about Section 31 and how space communism has to be brutal towards various factions for the federation to exist?

[Auro_Seldaris]

So you want more Dawntrail?

Dawntrail ended like it did because it avoided any political subject. You guys seem to not see that because you're blinded by the whole Sena Brier thing, but you remember every other version has WL voiced by a woman, and remove that, there is nothing political left in DT. They avoided any statement to the point it was consensually boring.

We're not talking about in-game politics. One of my favorite scenes in the game was the meeting with Varis in Stormblood. We're talking about real-world political stuff.

[PaulH]

Woah hang on. Whilst the acquisition of wealth for some races is no longer a priority it was still necessary, how else did the starfleet crew settle their bar bill at Quarks. Rules of acquisition 6. Greed is eternal and 9. A Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all. The ferengi alliance is alive and well I am sure.

[Themarvin]

It is their game, if they don't like things that is currently happening in the world, then they got their freedom of speech and ways to tell the things they seem fit.... and the way things go in the world right now, no one likes, so that is what the Warrior of Light is going to fight against and there is content and inspiration enough to make a price winning expansion for it as well.

[Raoabolic]

It is their game, if they don't like things that is currently happening in the world, then they got their freedom of speech and ways to tell the things they seem fit.... and the way things go in the world right now, no one likes, so that is what the Warrior of Light is going to fight against and there is content and inspiration enough to make a price winning expansion for it as well.

I don't know about calling it their game considering what the Dragonquest dev said. It also doesn't help that SE is trying to bury his statement and interview, lol.

[Auro_Seldaris]

So everyone is going to conveniently forget about Section 31 and how space communism has to be brutal owards various factions for the federation to exist?

First, it's space socialism, not space communism. The Federation is made of a wide variety of member worlds, each with their own societies and belief systems, and the Federation never forces anyone to all "live the exact same way". It's more about the benefit for the collective society, than about enforcing some belief that everyone must live the EXACT same way. If they did they would force Vulcans to feel emotions, or lobotomize Betazeds so they no longer have telepathic powers.

Second, I hate the very idea of Section 31. It was edgy. Trek was never supposed to be a "false utopia" or a "Secret dystopia". The idealism was supposed to win out. The Federation/Starfleet's ideals were always supposed to come out on top over the people that scheme and are duplicitous, like the Romulans or Cardassians. (If you buy into the very likely theory that the basic idea of Deep Space 9 was cribbed from a spec treatment for Babylon 5 that Stracynzski had shopped to Paramount a few years earlier, then Section 31 only exists becuase it's a parallel version of the Psi Corps in Babylon 5 - black ops schemers who think they're more important than they actually are)

Also, people like Luther Sloan can't be taken at face value. He's just as self-obsessed and self-serving as Gul Dukat or Gowron, only he hides behind a "someone has to get their hands dirty" justification, whereas Bashir's whole point is, "No, no you DON'T have to betray your ideals to get things done."

The "Brutality" is self-serving nonsense, like the schemers in Star Trek VI who want to keep the war with the Klingons going for their own purposes, or the Starfleet Admiral in Insurrection who's scheming behind Starfleet's back because he personally sees stealing the healing particles from the Baku as being a necessary advantage for the Dominion War.

I'm not even going to get into Discovery or "Kurtzman Trek", like the Section 31 movie. That's just edgy "bad guys are cool" stuff like Suicide Squad. I don't even consider Kurtzman Trek to be real Trek.

Sorry bout the off-topic but i just have to correct this stance as a lifelong Trek fan.

[Raoabolic]

First, it's space socialism, not space communism. The Federation is made of a wide variety of member worlds, each with their own societies and belief systems, and the Federation never forces anyone to all "live the exact same way". It's more about the benefit for the collective society, than about enforcing some belief that everyone must live the EXACT same way. If they did they would force Vulcans to feel emotions, or lobotomize Betazeds so they no longer have telepathic powers.

Second, I hate the very idea of Section 31. It was edgy. Trek was never supposed to be a "false utopia" or a "Secret dystopia". The idealism was supposed to win out. The Federation/Starfleet's ideals were always supposed to come out on top over the people that scheme and are duplicitous, like the Romulans or Cardassians.

Also, people like Luther Sloan can't be taken at face value. He's just as self-obsessed and self-serving as Gul Dukat or Gowron, only he hides behind a "someone has to get their hands dirty" justification, whereas Bashir's whole point is, "No, no you DON'T have to betray your ideals to get things done."

The "Brutality" is self-serving nonsense, like the schemers in Star Trek VI who want to keep the war with the Klingons going for their own purposes, or the Starfleet Admiral in Insurrection who's scheming behind Starfleet's back because he personally sees stealing the healing particles from the Baku as being a necessary advantage for the Dominion War.

I'm not even going to get into Discovery or "Kurtzman Trek", like the Section 31 movie. That's just edgy "bad guys are cool" stuff like Suicide Squad. I don't even consider Kurtzman Trek to be real Trek.

Sorry bout the off-topic but i just have to correct this stance as a lifelong Trek fan.

Honestly, the biggest shock was you saying that there is a section 31 movie. I was talking about the book, lol. Besides, Section 31 was needed because once the ST nerds started digging into the timeline, a lot of stuff didn't make sense unless a secret faction was in the background. Section 31 is just the Asicans of the ST world, needed but ultimately a writer's get out of free jail card at worst.
*Looks up the movie*
Oh good... I hate it. :/