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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Where did you get that impression? You read a cease-and-desist letter? A legal filing? Or are you referring to the linked statement, which is a reiteration of a viewpoint as old as the game?
    The creator of Mare received a cease and desist letter. He confirmed it. As in he, the dev whose personal information was indeed on the github and patreon, which he also admitted wss a mistake.

    Is this letter as old as the game? Yoshi P has cited inflation and online protection acts before ? That would just make it mean he's been a con this whole time.

    It would kinda make sense to be honest, why he seems to only vaguely know what is happening at any given moment and why his letters sometimes really don't make any sense. Sometimes I think he flies around the world doing interviews while his team crafts male bunny boys he later admitted to having no idea about.

    Also this letter is not a "rule of fight club" letter. Its a firm stance against mods like Mare, but without the action to back it up and a "don't talk about fight club" thrown in. In other words its just for show and nothing has really changed. Very political actually.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 08-29-2025 at 04:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Bravo, Yoshi P.

    Well said.
    Well worded.
    Everything was crystal clear.
    It's about time. I have been watching the communities that are pro mod and those that are pro ToS go at eachother like crazy over the years.

    Hopefully this shuts everyone up!

    It is certainly a clear statement! And far outweighs the millions of live letter links that were tongue in cheek about stuff.

    No wonder it got out of hand with that one specific mod.

    Good for Yoshi daring to put himself out there (and could be used as a sheild against any legal action "Well here's my post I told them not to, go after the mod developers")

    But still good for him doing that on the actual FF14 news posts which can't be twisted by media outlets because ppl can't be bothered looking for a specific phrase in a live letter years ago at god knows what time stamp.

    This is clear, precise and to the point.

    He needs to do more of this.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Also this letter is not a "rule of fight club" letter. Its a firm stance against mods like Mare, but without the action to back it up and a "don't talk about fight club" thrown in. In other words its just for show and nothing has really changed. Very political actually.
    So, not about the statement quoted in the original post? Got it.

    My statement is acknowledging the reiteration of a point of view by Square Enix about mods that is as old as the game.

    A cease-and-desist letter is a polite way of saying "cease, or we sue". It is a warning prelude to a legal action. You'd prefer the originator of the mod in question go to court? You started a GoFundMe for them yet?
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    So modders did it to themselves, which nearly everyone already knew. Apparently it's extremely difficult to not use the ffxiv tag when uploading your in-game porn to twitter.
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    Overall, I consider Yoshi's statement to be a win. Sure I find it lame that one of SE's reasons for banning the mod was because it reduced the profitability of the cash shop. But the fact is that the mod enabled users to show adult content to anybody else using the mod including minors. Unregulated pornographic content distributed nearly without limitation is bound to encounter certain legal obstacles depending on location, so good on you SE for stepping up and taking the laws of customer countries into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Overall, I consider Yoshi's statement to be a win. Sure I find it lame that one of SE's reasons for banning the mod was because it reduced the profitability of the cash shop. But the fact is that the mod enabled users to show adult content to anybody else using the mod including minors. Unregulated pornographic content distributed nearly without limitation is bound to encounter certain legal obstacles depending on location, so good on you SE for stepping up and taking the laws of customer countries into consideration.
    Completely agree with this.

    This mod has been in circulation for what 3 years? It shares mods that ppl use to run around with massive breasts, arse and genitalia? What is this game rated again?

    I bet many dread to think.. but you've most likely used this mod with a MINOR. That is the sad truth.

    Oops..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Yoshi P doesn't care what you do to your local computer. But they don't want you messing with other people's computers.
    I think this is the most important thing there. Also, I think Yoshi P's post was sensible.
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    Personally I do not find anything wrong with what was said around the cash shop, like a few others on this thread. If you do not want to support it don't buy from it, but do not try and have your cake and eat it too by modding those items for yourself for free. Making cash shop items an off limits thing for even mods seems like more than a reasonable request also things like ultimate items add to that list as well. These both seem fair and I know I have experinced a few people say smugly how ultimate weapons don't matter if they can mod them in. Having these things as off limits is fair and reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    So, not about the statement quoted in the original post? Got it.

    My statement is acknowledging the reiteration of a point of view by Square Enix about mods that is as old as the game.

    A cease-and-desist letter is a polite way of saying "cease, or we sue". It is a warning prelude to a legal action. You'd prefer the originator of the mod in question go to court? You started a GoFundMe for them yet?
    I have no idea what you are talking about, and I genuinely mean that. My original point is that this mod was only shut down because the dev's public info was easy to find. It isn' that complicated.

    Other mods that perform the same functions to varying degrees already existed before Mare and will continue to exist. This letter is indeed, just for show. If anything, they will use Mare as some kind of example they have actually done something if/when these mods do actually become a larger problem.

    And it worked btw. Just look at all the posts. Such sensible and wise Yoshi P lol. Players actually believe SE just woke up one random day after years and decided just now, this one mod had just gone too far. I highly doubt it. Something forced their hand and it was easy to do.

    . People are already rushing to new alternatives, if you know you know.
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    I don't understand the cheering coming from either direction, he didn't say anything he hasn't already said before. Nothing happened. This is like the third time he's made this exact statement-the last time word for word, this time broken down for those without access to hooked on phonics. We already knew all this.
    Good reminder, I guess???
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