Honestly, game is fun

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[Kahnha]

Glad you enjoy the game your own enjoyment is what matters and not the opinions of others, while the dooming may seem destructive and over powering most people just want the game to be better than what it is. and it can be better than what it is
they have a free mobile version with so many features that the paid concole / pc version should have for example.

that all said keep on keeping on welcome to the forum!

[TheRealDesastr]

Glad you enjoy the game your own enjoyment is what matters and not the opinions of others, while the dooming may seem destructive and over powering most people just want the game to be better than what it is. and it can be better than what it is
they have a free mobile version with so many features that the paid concole / pc version should have for example.

that all said keep on keeping on welcome to the forum!

Agreed.... OP, if you're having so much fun, why are you on the forums where people give feedback on how they want to see the game to improve and saying 'all is fine, stop complaining'? FFXIV has plenty of 'the devs can do no wrong, there's nothing wrong with the game, there's plenty to do' in this culture of toxic positivity to begin with.

This sort of narrative is really pointless, especially in the only spot we can actually give feedback.

[Xurtan]

The thing a lot of people don't seem to realize is it possible to like something AND dislike the state it's in. These are not mutually exclusive. One can enjoy and like many things about the game AND still wish it was better in aspects. I love going to venues with my FC, I keep up with the story, I do Savage tiers and the new 24s, check out new content, etc. There's plenty to keep me busy. That said, especially as a healer, there are things I *despise* about the game. People are "dooming" because they're that passionate about the game they love and want to improve it.

[TheRealDesastr]

I just find it unusual to mention here... again, on the forums, where people are trying to give feedback to improve the game. You started your own thread talking about "Doomers" with nothing really to contribute other than 'stop complaining'. If you really had a gripe with people, why not comment on the threads saying 'the game is dead' or something, and suggesting things they could do on there? Since, let's be real, this does feel like (and likely is) a rage bait thread. Which exist here in both the toxic positivity angle (this one) and the 'game is dead forever' angle. Two sides of the same coin, really.

[Wawaya]

When people are saying "there is no content", they're talking about the current expansion. I bought Dawntrail, so it's to do content related to that expansion, I want to play with my lvl 100 jobs on lvl 100 content. If I wanted to continue doing older contents, I wouldn't have bought DT, especially when I've done everything I wanted to do from past expac. Right now, yes, there are no long-lasting content released during DT

Yes, the game does have a large number of content if you're a new player, or don't play/bought patches/expansion on release

[Shinku_Tachi]

I've been playing FFXIV since 1.0 and I love FFXIV. I have tons of fun when I'm playing.

I have plenty of criticisms too. So as much as you find me praising it, you'll also find me ******** about it, but that doesn't mean I love 14 any less.

I'm glad to see others out here enjoying it. ^_^

[Aonns]

Agreed.... OP, if you're having so much fun, why are you on the forums where people give feedback on how they want to see the game to improve and saying 'all is fine, stop complaining'? FFXIV has plenty of 'the devs can do no wrong, there's nothing wrong with the game, there's plenty to do' in this culture of toxic positivity to begin with.

This sort of narrative is really pointless, especially in the only spot we can actually give feedback.

A forum is more than just a place to air grievances. A forum is a place to talk about the game. To talk about it in any capacity. To gatekeep this place because a thread does not adhere to your beliefs of critique only is a bit backwards.

Just as this is a place to talk about what you think is wrong, it is equally a place to talk about what you think is right.

And I cannot see where op stated that there is nothing wrong with the game. Their stated stance is anti "no content".

[Jeeqbit]

it baffles me a lot when I read that "there's no content".

The problem, I think, is the fact people won't run anything that doesn't involve glamour.

You're right that it's usually due to people not running all the content. But it's not necessarily due to there being no glamour. For some, it could be due to no mount or minion. Or because they don't value mounts/minions. Or it could be due to it being too difficult, or too difficult to socially organize and navigate through ie. Chaotic, Forked Tower when it released. Sometimes, it's because it's too easy.

SE has acknowledged the difficulty issue so they are adding ways to scale the difficulty and mechanics for a lot of content going forward.

I love deep dungeons, I love Bozja, I love doing hunts, I love doing random quests, BLU, craft, fishing, .. I'm basically done with all content but I still come back and play some of it all because, well, it is fun.

I enjoy hunts, PvP and various systems in the Gold Saucer. I enjoy maps purely if I'm doing it with others for the social interaction. But if you play enough, most of everything else becomes repetitive if you do it multiple times, because it's scripted to always be the same with insufficient variable factors.

Example is that if you do an expert dungeon to cap tomestones every week, as is clearly the intended method by the number of Mathematic tomestones given, after enough months it eventually makes you sick actually doing it because nothing really changes about it, and that became an issue after they stopped swapping out the dungeons every 3.5 months and now each individual dungeon remains there for 9 months.

So there is a case to be made that designing systems that are different each time but still fun to do would help solve the complaints, because then the game no longer relies on "content with shelf life".

I understand most people finished everything they could but again, saying there is no content is a complete lie. There is ton of it

I do always find it odd when people come to the forums the 2nd day after a patch and say "there is no content". You can't possibly have finished it that fast unless you didn't do it ie. farming an extreme trial, clearing savage, getting the new pvp rewards, etc.

[Haru304]

Glad you're enjoying the content.

Personally, I'm not enjoying a lot of the new content, and I'm largely not fond of how old content is constantly being neutered or crafted into a slog.

I'm at a point where I believe if a game's design philosophy hinges on getting people to the newest, most up to date content, then you either make the journey there -fun- or you... just let them go straight to it.