Honestly, game is fun

[vincexorcized]

I'm playing it for quite some years now, haven't start DT yet even if I know how bad the reputation of it is already but, it baffles me a lot when I read that "there's no content".

The problem, I think, is the fact people won't run anything that doesn't involve glamour. People don't want to play any content just for the sake of it. I love deep dungeons, I love Bozja, I love doing hunts, I love doing random quests, BLU, craft, fishing, .. I'm basically done with all content but I still come back and play some of it all because, well, it is fun.

I understand most people finished everything they could but again, saying there is no content is a complete lie. There is ton of it, and I wish people actually run them instead of being AFK, posing and complaining here and there "game dead".

Now if you're a +10 years player, I can understand the frustration. But if I was a +10 years of playtime, I would take a break and go play something else, it's not that serious at all.

I'll probably get hated for that take, but the eternal dooming over this game is tiring. Move on if you dislike the current state of the game. Also nobody cares about anyone virtual house. You bought your property knowing the risk of it all. Which is being trapped in paying sub for keeping a virtual house, where you never AFK in or receive people in.

My point is, there's no need to have great reward to justify fun content. Now if your fun is to get all rewards, well I'm sorry for you. We can't do thing about it. But now if you're not having fun anymore, it's time, once again, to move on. And that's absolutely fine to do so.

[Kahnha]

Glad you enjoy the game your own enjoyment is what matters and not the opinions of others, while the dooming may seem destructive and over powering most people just want the game to be better than what it is. and it can be better than what it is
they have a free mobile version with so many features that the paid concole / pc version should have for example.

that all said keep on keeping on welcome to the forum!

[TheRealDesastr]

Glad you enjoy the game your own enjoyment is what matters and not the opinions of others, while the dooming may seem destructive and over powering most people just want the game to be better than what it is. and it can be better than what it is
they have a free mobile version with so many features that the paid concole / pc version should have for example.

that all said keep on keeping on welcome to the forum!

Agreed.... OP, if you're having so much fun, why are you on the forums where people give feedback on how they want to see the game to improve and saying 'all is fine, stop complaining'? FFXIV has plenty of 'the devs can do no wrong, there's nothing wrong with the game, there's plenty to do' in this culture of toxic positivity to begin with.

This sort of narrative is really pointless, especially in the only spot we can actually give feedback.

[Xurtan]

The thing a lot of people don't seem to realize is it possible to like something AND dislike the state it's in. These are not mutually exclusive. One can enjoy and like many things about the game AND still wish it was better in aspects. I love going to venues with my FC, I keep up with the story, I do Savage tiers and the new 24s, check out new content, etc. There's plenty to keep me busy. That said, especially as a healer, there are things I *despise* about the game. People are "dooming" because they're that passionate about the game they love and want to improve it.

[TheRealDesastr]

I just find it unusual to mention here... again, on the forums, where people are trying to give feedback to improve the game. You started your own thread talking about "Doomers" with nothing really to contribute other than 'stop complaining'. If you really had a gripe with people, why not comment on the threads saying 'the game is dead' or something, and suggesting things they could do on there? Since, let's be real, this does feel like (and likely is) a rage bait thread. Which exist here in both the toxic positivity angle (this one) and the 'game is dead forever' angle. Two sides of the same coin, really.

[vincexorcized]

Agreed.... OP, if you're having so much fun, why are you on the forums where people give feedback on how they want to see the game to improve and saying 'all is fine, stop complaining'? FFXIV has plenty of 'the devs can do no wrong, there's nothing wrong with the game, there's plenty to do' in this culture of toxic positivity to begin with.

This sort of narrative is really pointless, especially in the only spot we can actually give feedback.

The dooming is everywhere, I only wanted to share my opinion on it all. I'm not "toxic positive" either, it all seems to be fact for me, there is content

[vincexorcized]

The thing a lot of people don't seem to realize is it possible to like something AND dislike the state it's in. These are not mutually exclusive. One can enjoy and like many things about the game AND still wish it was better in aspects. I love going to venues with my FC, I keep up with the story, I do Savage tiers and the new 24s, check out new content, etc. There's plenty to keep me busy. That said, especially as a healer, there are things I *despise* about the game. People are "dooming" because they're that passionate about the game they love and want to improve it.

Community did it to themselves about the state of healers though. From things I read, people hated it at first, asked for changes, had their changes, and so on up to that point where, now, everyone wants the role to be reshaped again.

I do agree with rest of your answer.

[vincexorcized]

I just find it unusual to mention here... again, on the forums, where people are trying to give feedback to improve the game. You started your own thread talking about "Doomers" with nothing really to contribute other than 'stop complaining'. If you really had a gripe with people, why not comment on the threads saying 'the game is dead' or something, and suggesting things they could do on there? Since, let's be real, this does feel like (and likely is) a rage bait thread. Which exist here in both the toxic positivity angle (this one) and the 'game is dead forever' angle. Two sides of the same coin, really.

I have the freedom to express myself without insulting anyone, so I'm doing so.

If you dislike the post, everything's fine, you don't have to interact with it at all.

[Wawaya]

When people are saying "there is no content", they're talking about the current expansion. I bought Dawntrail, so it's to do content related to that expansion, I want to play with my lvl 100 jobs on lvl 100 content. If I wanted to continue doing older contents, I wouldn't have bought DT, especially when I've done everything I wanted to do from past expac. Right now, yes, there are no long-lasting content released during DT

Yes, the game does have a large number of content if you're a new player, or don't play/bought patches/expansion on release

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I'm playing it for quite some years now, haven't start DT yet even if I know how bad the reputation of it is already but, it baffles me a lot when I read that "there's no content".

The problem, I think, is the fact people won't run anything that doesn't involve glamour. People don't want to play any content just for the sake of it. I love deep dungeons, I love Bozja, I love doing hunts, I love doing random quests, BLU, craft, fishing, .. I'm basically done with all content but I still come back and play some of it all because, well, it is fun.

I understand most people finished everything they could but again, saying there is no content is a complete lie. There is ton of it, and I wish people actually run them instead of being AFK, posing and complaining here and there "game dead".

Now if you're a +10 years player, I can understand the frustration. But if I was a +10 years of playtime, I would take a break and go play something else, it's not that serious at all.

I'll probably get hated for that take, but the eternal dooming over this game is tiring. Move on if you dislike the current state of the game. Also nobody cares about anyone virtual house. You bought your property knowing the risk of it all. Which is being trapped in paying sub for keeping a virtual house, where you never AFK in or receive people in.

My point is, there's no need to have great reward to justify fun content. Now if your fun is to get all rewards, well I'm sorry for you. We can't do thing about it. But now if you're not having fun anymore, it's time, once again, to move on. And that's absolutely fine to do so.

Yay someone who knows nothing about what they're talking about. There's plenty of players like myself who purchased houses LONG before any demolition timer existed

The idea that players who've played the game a long time should just go play some other game if they're bored is absolutely ridiculous. People are stating their frustration BECAUSE THEY ENJOYED THE GAME AND WANT IT TO IMPROVE, but to be doing the same thing 12+ years later with very little change to the formula is a joke.

Also looking at your character(unless this is an alt who's come to troll) you've spammed very little endgame, so yes not gonna listen to someone who's been here 2 mins telling me I should repeat the same shite for the next 5 years. Sub numbers ARE dropping because of this attitude.

But yes once my sub lapses in November I will let the house demolish a few weeks before, so i can pay a minimum of every 4 months. (played since Alpha 1.0)