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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    This whole issue seems like such a nothing burger. People just don't want to wait. LOL
    Always interesting how clearly you can weed out delusional people on this forum.

    People don't want to wait for mediocrity, why are you not understanding it?
    Not saying everything about FF14 is bad, but by now surely the majority is. They keep adding layer over layer of something that will make the layer before in unimportant. How about that Island Sanctuary? I wouldn't hold it against if you if you didn't remember what it was because its gotten like 1 up date and talks about it died down. Waiting time is an issue with ff14 because they always make excuses on how long they need and why.

    In the recent interview "I hope players don't forget we are people too.", well ofc devs are people but what are they doing if a 4 month patch cycle for improvements can't be uphold? They got all that time and all they do is a half assed cosmic exploration system and Eurbozja that sounds fun and good on paper but doesn't really work out in practice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilaIronman View Post
    Always interesting how clearly you can weed out delusional people on this forum.

    People don't want to wait for mediocrity, why are you not understanding it?
    Not saying everything about FF14 is bad, but by now surely the majority is. They keep adding layer over layer of something that will make the layer before in unimportant. How about that Island Sanctuary? I wouldn't hold it against if you if you didn't remember what it was because its gotten like 1 up date and talks about it died down. Waiting time is an issue with ff14 because they always make excuses on how long they need and why.

    In the recent interview "I hope players don't forget we are people too.", well ofc devs are people but what are they doing if a 4 month patch cycle for improvements can't be uphold? They got all that time and all they do is a half assed cosmic exploration system and Eurbozja that sounds fun and good on paper but doesn't really work out in practice?
    Sorry it's just... do you think that if we rush out 8.0 it won't come out as a mediocrity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    Sorry it's just... do you think that if we rush out 8.0 it won't come out as a mediocrity?
    It's more that we haven't see any evidence that extra time translates to quality or quantity. We were getting more content at a higher quality when patches were 4-6 weeks shorter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    It's more that we haven't see any evidence that extra time translates to quality or quantity. We were getting more content at a higher quality when patches were 4-6 weeks shorter.
    Quantity wise you're getting the exact amount of content you get on every expansion. The extra weeks was so the devs didn't burn themselves out.

    My take is that they took that decision for extra time because FFXIV was obviously burning out talent out of CBU3, probably relates more with the decaying quality of the game than anything else IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    Sorry it's just... do you think that if we rush out 8.0 it won't come out as a mediocrity?
    Nah and I never said it would be mediocre/good if it was rushed. But then people wouldn't be complaining about wait time. lets be honest, if you think 8.0 will bring big changes and mega rework for anything your wrong too, 8.0 will be same old with more excuses
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilaIronman View Post
    Nah and I never said it would be mediocre/good if it was rushed. But then people wouldn't be complaining about wait time. lets be honest, if you think 8.0 will bring big changes and mega rework for anything your wrong too, 8.0 will be same old with more excuses
    No, to be honest, from what I said on my earlier post the reason for the state of the game feels more complicated than a couple of weeks more between patches and devs sitting on their asses doing nothing. It takes time to design fights,, music, the MSQ and all of that and they're on a really tight schedule to make it all happen.

    Wanting a complete rework of FFXIV , like a big rehaul , but also for it to be released immediately is kind of delusional. It'll probably take slow steps, better hiring and managing for the game to improve.

    World of Warcraft suffered through 6 years of mediocrity before it recovered, if you look at the reason why, especially around the controversy they faced, it was that they were mismanaging and bleeding out talent like crazy (some of the mismanaging being outright violent), while not as extreme I think it's the same case for this game.
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    "Whirlwind pace"
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    Per Yoshi P:
    (And one more thing: for those wondering what comes after the Japan Fan Fest...while I can't give any details just yet, rest assured you won't have to wait long.)

    They felt the heat folks. Obviously, they can't release it before fan fest is done so I do think this is the best they could do.

    This thread's mission is complete.
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    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilaIronman View Post
    Always interesting how clearly you can weed out delusional people on this forum.

    People don't want to wait for mediocrity, why are you not understanding it?
    Not saying everything about FF14 is bad, but by now surely the majority is. They keep adding layer over layer of something that will make the layer before in unimportant. How about that Island Sanctuary? I wouldn't hold it against if you if you didn't remember what it was because its gotten like 1 up date and talks about it died down. Waiting time is an issue with ff14 because they always make excuses on how long they need and why.

    In the recent interview "I hope players don't forget we are people too.", well ofc devs are people but what are they doing if a 4 month patch cycle for improvements can't be uphold? They got all that time and all they do is a half assed cosmic exploration system and Eurbozja that sounds fun and good on paper but doesn't really work out in practice?
    I hated that island so much but some of the glams/rewards were nice, I just wish it was more engaging instead of a visit once a week to reset things piece of content. I'm fine with them not adding updates to it, what would even been the point, I'm sure the resources can be used to improve things in OC and CE. I have my gripes with certain aspects of the game but I've been enjoying myself with a lot of the recent content. Sorry if that makes me delulu but that's a you issue. I don't want a rushed expansion so I don't mind waiting, I'll just play GTA6 if I get bored during a content lull.
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    I'll say it, GTA6 looks like it's going to be the DT of GTA games. I'm still shocked that the VERY early rumors about the story being a bonnnie and clyde story where the guy is a non-antifa member and you play primarily as a colored girlboss type of character. That and the fact that the head writer and a lot of talent left Rockstar earlyish in development, AND the fact it's being pushed back doesn't inspire me with much hope. Oh well, my backlog never fails to entertain me~!
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