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    Halivel, I fully agree with you, but I feel like arguing with social darwinists who think LGBTQIA+ people having their rights slowly but steadily stripped from them may well be futile. Like, there's European countries where parties are literally pushing for sending all data on trans people who change their names to law enforcement and secret services. Unprompted. Roe v Wade being overturned in the US effectively abolishes the rights of those who do not have the means to travel to a place that'll still let them have an abortion.

    Hate speech laws are good. Bigots should be deplatformed. But I am unsurprised that unaffected people would not understand that.

    e/; And no, voting doesn't change shit because minorities are, you guessed it, minorities and putting them at the whims of their oppressors is a recipe to disaster.
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    Midcore is when you take a look at an Ultimate, nod along sagely to a guide and decide to do it when you get 12 months of uninterrupted vacation, which is to say: never.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I think at this point 0blivion has decided to play forum villain, until perhaps the Exarch cloak becomes available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    Halivel, I fully agree with you, but I feel like arguing with social darwinists who think LGBTQIA+ people having their rights slowly but steadily stripped from them may well be futile. Like, there's European countries where parties are literally pushing for sending all data on trans people who change their names to law enforcement and secret services. Unprompted. Roe v Wade being overturned in the US effectively abolishes the rights of those who do not have the means to travel to a place that'll still let them have an abortion.

    Hate speech laws are good. Bigots should be deplatformed. But I am unsurprised that unaffected people would not understand that.

    e/; And no, voting doesn't change shit because minorities are, you guessed it, minorities and putting them at the whims of their oppressors is a recipe to disaster.
    And whose the oppressors exactly? What are they doing precisely to cause this perceived systemic oppression? Make it make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Halivel, these people are not interested in reading, thinking or understanding. They have cartoon mindsets. They'll only see the writing on the wall when it's collapsing around them. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do to get through to them no matter how sincere and open you try to discuss things.
    Calling people buzz words is being nice and open to try to discuss things....?

    Wild schizo posting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    There is no point arguing with these people. They don't bring anything to the table in response and just respond with bad faith arguments, or like the Blistering Frost guy just resort to name calling. Anyway I though these guys were the proponents of free speech, yet here they are wanting someone to lose their job because of something they said. Hypocrites or what.
    In reality we call this Projection. Take note of this delusion my friends in Hydaelyn. The Freedom of Speech is not the freedom to speak without consequences.

  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    Hate speech laws are good.
    Hate speech laws are oppressive and objectively authoritarian. The one who defines "hate" is the one who gets to crush others with the full force of the state.
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    How did this forum go from applying rules impartially to full on political discourses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeresaFortell View Post
    How did this forum go from applying rules impartially to full on political discourses?
    I have wondered why the topic has remained up but not because its political (is that against the rules??), but rather because it concerns a staff member. Maybe that is not being considered because its about their public statements. I am unsure. Long since time to close it when its just spreading ignorance at this point and only being updated by trolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I have wondered why the topic has remained up but not because its political (is that against the rules??), but rather because it concerns a staff member. Maybe that is not being considered because its about their public statements. I am unsure. Long since time to close it when its just spreading ignorance at this point and only being updated by trolls.
    They are gathering opinions on how to handle her probably.. I just assume as much.
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