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    DaKitten's Avatar
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    Ai Aely
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    This is not a DDOS, Tell the truth SE.

    A DDOS in pretty much all scenarios is a consistent denial of service attack, if it were happening it would not be as inconsistent as this "DDOS" is.

    Even with DDOS protection in place, it would still not be this inconsistent.

    This is a server overload or server hardware issue, I'm not buying the excuse.

    Please fix the actual problem.
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    Mother Vain
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    I just got booted out of the game, this is the final server error for me today.

    It's fun paying a monthly sub for a game that keeps kicking you out.
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    34 times all 9002 2002 wtf
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    They did outright lie about their system dropping people during Endwalker's release being the fault of people's connections and not their queue system (as found out during wireshark analysis), so not like they've been shown to be 100% honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    They did outright lie about their system dropping people during Endwalker's release being the fault of people's connections and not their queue system (as found out during wireshark analysis), so not like they've been shown to be 100% honest.
    I wouldn't consider this a lie but more Occams Razor, the statement they made was they outright didin't know this issue existed until dedicated players tracked it down, This is more damaging to them than it being a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillIrishclover View Post
    I wouldn't consider this a lie but more Occams Razor, the statement they made was they outright didin't know this issue existed until dedicated players tracked it down, This is more damaging to them than it being a lie.
    You're correct, it's not 100% certain it was a lie, I misspoke.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Every DDoS is a spy vs spy game with the bad guys.

    They attack, you put in a countermeasure, they circumvent that and continue the attack, you circumvent that, and the cycle continues.

    Unless you want to implement some rather draconian privacy violations to make sure that attacks such as this are traced back to everybody involved and punished, we have to accept that there will be disruptions.
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Every DDoS is a spy vs spy game with the bad guys.

    They attack, you put in a countermeasure, they circumvent that and continue the attack, you circumvent that, and the cycle continues.

    Unless you want to implement some rather draconian privacy violations to make sure that attacks such as this are traced back to everybody involved and punished, we have to accept that there will be disruptions.
    Yeah. Pretty much the only solid countermeasure to ddos is it's own isolated internet where ip/mac whatever is directly tied to your personal id. So you couldn't just swap id and continue the attack.

    So currently it bogs down to countries encouraging or sanctioning each other to curb the distribution of bots used for malware and ddosing.
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    Shade Hikari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Every DDoS is a spy vs spy game with the bad guys.

    They attack, you put in a countermeasure, they circumvent that and continue the attack, you circumvent that, and the cycle continues.

    Unless you want to implement some rather draconian privacy violations to make sure that attacks such as this are traced back to everybody involved and punished, we have to accept that there will be disruptions.
    SE doesn't need you to defend them, they can do it that themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshade View Post
    SE doesn't need you to defend them, they can do it that themselves
    I am not defending them; I am simply stating facts that many people may not really understand. I deal with attacks such as this frequently in my profession, so I know a thing or two about them and how they work.
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