Monthly Sub Increase

[Hallarem]

Sooooo.. because they are failing to invest their money into making the game better and instead invested in FF16 and other sideprojects. Its our fault we arent forking enough subscription money to fund their... what? Improving the game? Havent seen it.

Let me put it like this. If they raised subfees. I would quit out of principle.

[Gurgeh]

The sub pricing has barely changed at all for many years; perhaps changing this could result in whatever is necessary to improve the current state of the game, i.e. more staff, more resources, more frequent/better content etc. I'm rather surprised it has not increased yet with the current on-going global financial climate.

Do you think it would make much difference? Would you or the wider player base will willing to accept one?

No. I'm not fronting them the money. They need to deliver more first, and at this point it now needs to be more for me not more for other players. Then I might, yes. But to be clear the way they spread content across many many many months, but saved up content is braindead by the time you've saved it up that's too the way overgearing kills it so quickly, they will need to produce a LOT more content for a price hike. The game is cheap for what I expect, but currently way overpriced for what I was getting.

[ForteNightshade]

Putting aside the... shall we say divisive reception DT has received, it's simply a much better and far less risky venture to toss more stuff on the Mogstation. Raising the sub fee comes with the serious risk of driving away enough customers over time that any financial benefit erodes over time whereas adding some extra stuff to the Mogstation just milks players who willingly offer their money.

[Asdif_Laoeg]

The sub pricing has barely changed at all for many years; perhaps changing this could result in whatever is necessary to improve the current state of the game, i.e. more staff, more resources, more frequent/better content etc. I'm rather surprised it has not increased yet with the current on-going global financial climate.

Do you think it would make much difference? Would you or the wider player base will willing to accept one?

The problem is not the money, it is that they don't get enough staff. I mean, on how many live letters did they try to get more staff for this game at the end of the live letter? They try to get more staff for the game but have problems with this, not the money.

[ViinaS]

The problem is not the money, it is that they don't get enough staff. I mean, on how many live letters did they try to get more staff for this game at the end of the live letter? They try to get more staff for the game but have problems with this, not the money.

That's also entirely their fault.
They want people fluent in Japanese when the language used in businesses that breach international market is English, or at least make sure your people cann all communicate if they speak different languages.

The other issue being FFXIV running on DirectX11. DirectX 11 is an API, which was discontinued in January 2013.
In 2025 people, shockingly do not want to work with something like a system that was discontinued over a decade ago.
But that only also shows once again the engine and such need an overhaul or something entirely new.

But they prefer their spaghetti code excuse I guess.

[Saraide]

The problem is not the money, it is that they don't get enough staff. I mean, on how many live letters did they try to get more staff for this game at the end of the live letter? They try to get more staff for the game but have problems with this, not the money.

The problem is absolutely money. SE is not part of the 20 best paying game developers in japan. Additionally MMO development is inherently unpopular because it's almost a dead end.

Edit: I found the article again: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/...o-ranks-third/

[Volgia]

The problem is absolutely money. SE is not part of the 20 best paying game developers in japan. Additionally MMO development is inherently unpopular because it's almost a dead end.

Edit: I found the article again: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/...o-ranks-third/

I remember during Stormblood and Shadowbringers that working for FFXIV was kind of a nightmare. Not only that, but they don't pay that well and require you to live in Tokyo so it's hard to find people to hire.

[KurisuCerrias]

The sub price may not have directly increased, but indirectly the longer patch cycle means we pay 1.5 additional subs more for 1 patch worth of content (that is the same ammount or less of said content)

[RedLolly]

The sub price may not have directly increased, but indirectly the longer patch cycle means we pay 1.5 additional subs more for 1 patch worth of content (that is the same ammount or less of said content)

I was going to say this. It already has gone up 50% so no.

The real issue is the fact most of the money we put into that sub is spread all over SE and not put back into FFXIV. That's been an issue for most of FFXIV'S life. We technically financed games like Foamstars and Forspoken.