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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    Yoshi P understands that they cannot possibly do everything the players want as far as glamours go and his compromise was to turn a blind eye to mods so long as modders were reasonable and didn't behave irresponsibly. I called it "The first rule of fight club is don't talk about fightclub" agreement because he was willing to let players use them so long as they didn't do so in a way that forced him to follow through on the game's policies in an official capacity.

    Well... guess what people did with the aforemented mod that was banished to the shadowrealm? this entire situation is the consequences of their own actions, but somehow they've deluded themselves into believing that it is somehow Square Enix's fault.
    This is true, insofar that they cannot do everything that players want (even more broadly speaking), and about compromise to a degree

    But it actually is Square Enix's fault mutually as it is the community.

    Square Enix have created a situation where they are wanting all of the upsides of modding, yet none of the downsides of it, and this just ain't practical. The ToS effectively amounts to a land of the lawless, and at some point it will run rampant. (Already has, and it will again), because the ToS itself is silly, as is the actual enforcement of it.

    I am not just talking about Mare here specifically, but even the development, e.g., we actually saw plugins that enabled stalking due to their complete inaction... Plus, we talk about "Don't talk about fight club" - But this isn't really the way it works at all lol, this community is very loud with modding in general, it just so happened that Mare ended up being the loudest.

    Even as it stands now, really.. It's actually only speculation whether this situation is due to how loud it was, or whether it was due to another reason, e.g., security concerns, or concerns about it utilizing the same account IDs that a certain other plugin did. Them taking down the tool is a big deal, but it is also simultaneously a nothing burger. Why? Because we will see a new one after everything has settled, and then we'll be back at step one again because they've technically not actually enforced their ToS on the players.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 08-27-2025 at 02:46 AM.