More rewards, more market prohibited

[LenaTsuki]

So, about making people do content, how about we stop putting every. single. new. reward. in the market?

Like, why would anyone do content if they only care about getting a new cool emote? They will buy it at the market board and have their fun already!

So, giving us more glams and emotes behind some content (glams for the allied quests? Emotes with savage raid books?) and making them market prohibited would be very healthy for the game

And they need to also not being afraid of giving us some grind to do for market prohibited rewards, this is what makes people play!

[AvoSturmfaust]

No this it what makes people cry atleast in Final sadly,

Remember the big mimimimi filthy cry babys when they put a cute mount in a savage fight, or hairstyle in a Chaos Raid, what do you think would happen if you add stuff in harder content which you cant buy? the filthy players which doesnt engage with 5% of the content the game has to offer are starting the biggest crybaby competition in the forum

[TheRealDesastr]

This would cause me to do even less content and not bother to even play the game. I don't need all content on one single character. 10+ years of rewards isn't appealing on a single character. I also have 0 desire to grind it out on my alts. Why should I have to do the same content twice or even more for many characters?

The only way this would work is if they made rewards account bound. Then I'd actually do content and wouldn't care if it was market prohibited because I'd be able to use it on an alt.

The whole 'all classes on one character' thing is of no interest to me personally. I like alts. I don't do content because nothing at this point fits my 'main'. No, 'get more fantasia' isn't a solution. No, I am not going to waste money and boost every single alt.

You want people to actually engage? Give them a reason, don't actively make them bother even less.

[LenaTsuki]

No this it what makes people cry atleast in Final sadly,

Remember the big mimimimi filthy cry babys when they put a cute mount in a savage fight, or hairstyle in a Chaos Raid, what do you think would happen if you add stuff in harder content which you cant buy? the filthy players which doesnt engage with 5% of the content the game has to offer are starting the biggest crybaby competition in the forum

I'm really just thinking about the health of the game tbh, I don't really give attention to a small portion of players just thinking about themselves and not wanting to play the game...

[TheRealDesastr]

I'm really just thinking about the health of the game tbh, I don't really give attention to a small portion of players just thinking about themselves and not wanting to play the game...

...So your logic is by not doing content you specifically want people to do, they're...selfish?

Interesting take but okay.

(Welcome to one of the many reasons the game is dying.)

[LenaTsuki]

This would cause me to do even less content and not bother to even play the game. I don't need all content on one single character. 10+ years of rewards isn't appealing on a single character. I also have 0 desire to grind it out on my alts. Why should I have to do the same content twice or even more for many characters?

The only way this would work is if they made rewards account bound. Then I'd actually do content and wouldn't care if it was market prohibited because I'd be able to use it on an alt.

The whole 'all classes on one character' thing is of no interest to me personally. I like alts. I don't do content because nothing at this point fits my 'main'. No, 'get more fantasia' isn't a solution. No, I am not going to waste money and boost every single alt.

You want people to actually engage? Give them a reason, don't actively make them bother even less.

So your issue isn't about giving more rewards behind content, it's a lot more about alts being a whole characters with nothing unlocked on them, it's a big different matter and I think it might stay like that for a while since it always as been this way on many other mmorpgs.

To be fair tho I myself never felt the need for alts, but I understand why one would!

I still need my unmarketable rewards, I want to feel rewarded for doing stuff, and I think a lot of people would actually do the content if they could have something new and unique from time to time!

For your alts issue tho, they could make a single line of code allowing alts to be able to claim any market prohibited rewards, and only market prohibited rewards, that would make it more balanced I guess?

[LenaTsuki]

...So your logic is by not doing content you specifically want people to do, they're...selfish?

Interesting take but okay.

(Welcome to one of the many reasons the game is dying.)

I never said that.

I'm just thinking about how to make people do content and how to reward people doing content properly

people not doing content is another matter and it has nothing to do with what i'm talking about

if you don't want to do content, feel free, i don't mind

i'm talking about people doing content!

[TheRealDesastr]

So your issue isn't about giving more rewards behind content, it's a lot more about alts being a whole characters with nothing unlocked on them, it's a big different matter and I think it might stay like that for a while since it always as been this way on many other mmorpgs.

To be fair tho I myself never felt the need for alts, but I understand why one would!

I still need my unmarketable rewards, I want to feel rewarded for doing stuff, and I think a lot of people would actually do the content if they could have something new and unique from time to time!

For your alts issue tho, they could make a single line of code allowing alts to be able to claim any market prohibited rewards, and only market prohibited rewards, that would make it more balanced I guess?

I don't know how coding works but unless they make it account bound, I don't know if it would work. I know people have issues with the idea because it makes people fight more over rewards for their alts, so there's two things they could do. Make it 'account bound' or mailable to alts (you can't do that now) per single item, which would make people grind more for their alts but cause an increase in competition (which is what people have an issue with). Or every reward is earned on every alt.

The first idea would get people to play way more and while it'd make them grind/repeat content, they could do so on their main and not need to run through the story for the 10,000th time. But it would make more competition for the rewards.

What do I prefer?

Either, really. Either solution would make me play the game a huge amount more, because then at least it's not stuck on my main.

If you want far more people to do things constantly, though, one single item that's 'account bound' you can use 'once' on any character is the solution (that is market prohibited but tradeable only to your alts). It'd be 'nicer' to have the second option, but if you want to repeat content and get the same thing for a different character, you'd do that content again on your 'main' and thus - more people playing.

I don't think those with altS (Well, I can't speak for everyone) would complain if that simple system was a thing. How viable is it? Not sure. Is it more viable than 'total account bound'? One would think, it does seem a ton easier than a 'journal' like in WoW.

The huge issue there I think people would have with it though is again... 'more competition' but that comes with more people actually playing and doing the content. Theoretically you should assume everyone is trying to get [xyz] reward anyway so... I really don't see the issue with 'more people doing the content thus more competition' since it'd just have happened anyway.

[LenaTsuki]

I don't know how coding works but unless they make it account bound, I don't know if it would work. I know people have issues with the idea because it makes people fight more over rewards for their alts, so there's two things they could do. Make it 'account bound' or mailable to alts (you can't do that now) per single item, which would make people grind more for their alts but cause an increase in competition (which is what people have an issue with). Or every reward is earned on every alt.

The first idea would get people to play way more and while it'd make them grind/repeat content, they could do so on their main and not need to run through the story for the 10,000th time. But it would make more competition for the rewards.

What do I prefer?

Either, really. Either solution would make me play the game a huge amount more, because then at least it's not stuck on my main.

If you want far more people to do things constantly, though, one single item that's 'account bound' you can use 'once' on any character is the solution (that is market prohibited but tradeable only to your alts). It'd be 'nicer' to have the second option, but if you want to repeat content and get the same thing for a different character, you'd do that content again on your 'main' and thus - more people playing.

I don't think those with altS (Well, I can't speak for everyone) would complain if that simple system was a thing. How viable is it? Not sure. Is it more viable than 'total account bound'? One would think, it does seem a ton easier than a 'journal' like in WoW.

The huge issue there I think people would have with it though is again... 'more competition' but that comes with more people actually playing and doing the content. Theoretically you should assume everyone is trying to get [xyz] reward anyway so... I really don't see the issue with 'more people doing the content thus more competition' since it'd just have happened anyway.

Yes, basically any of those solutions works for me, making everyone happy is possible, i'm sure of it! No need to penalize any kind of player. BUT I think keeping some marketable rewards along with some market prohibited ones would be cool for the players in need for some more grind!

[SyferU]

No this it what makes people cry atleast in Final sadly,

Remember the big mimimimi filthy cry babys when they put a cute mount in a savage fight, or hairstyle in a Chaos Raid, what do you think would happen if you add stuff in harder content which you cant buy? the filthy players which doesnt engage with 5% of the content the game has to offer are starting the biggest crybaby competition in the forum

You sound kinda cringe, are you sure you are not projecting the crybaby attitude on others?