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  1. #21
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    Anatha's Avatar
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    Ana Nuann
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    People who like to brush your face with: "haha i did more dps, you can try your best but i did better loser". Mentality of these players are present here btw. Same as people who watch aggro meter and determine by that who has the best dps. Some people will grief you on purpose just to return their dps. Some people will cry how their crits aren't fair as viper did best dps. Then I had plenty of people that would want a fight reset if they messed their starting rotation or died at mid fight, even though it was still a clear.

    Plus people love logs for savages / ultimates where you get kicked if your logs are empty / hidden / or not good.
    Aggro meter watching is the bane of my existence, an actual dps meter would just steal even more focus from fights.
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  2. #22
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    theunhappypotato's Avatar
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    Luci Thish
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    Spriggan
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kittycatcaoimhe View Post
    Or on the shinier bits of that side of the coin, people use it to coach people who are new to savage raiding, or new to raiding on a specific job. I know people who polished their whole rotation by sitting down with a mentor, a calculated rotation, and some ACT logs, and now they're off doing week one savage clears and ultimates.
    that doesnt fit into the "every raider is toxic" mindset some people here have tho
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  3. #23
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
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    No.
    I've seen the aftermath of ACT too many times.
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  4. #24
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 100
    God this is dumb.

    Look, ACT aside (for whoever uses it, god speed if you do), any parser in any game is only useful on a boss where everyone has the ability to min/max their rotations up to, and including, a countdown timer.

    * IF * YOU * DON'T * UNDERSTAND * THIS * YOU * DON'T * UNDERSTAND * DPS * PARSERS

    And the problem is that the average idiot doesn't understand this.

    So then idiots think that parsers mean ANYTHING in a dungeon pull.

    - They don't understand downtime
    - They don't understand # of enemies
    - They don't understand single-target fights
    - They don't understand anything

    THAT'S what Yoshi P is preventing.

    Dumb, toxic behavior because people can't understand simple math.

    I applaud this game for not allowing parser add-ons to be part of this game BECAUSE people who don't understand it are just going to find dumb reasons to be toxic for no good reason just like World of Warcraft.
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  6. #25
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    Laiyenu's Avatar
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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Many people here claim toxicity, but what's odd is that its used by the devs. If you are being bullied for dps / hps / threat/ mit in your dungeons and clears then find nicer groups, the problem is not the tool I have to get off a 3rd party website, which the dev's trust but sweep under the rug as a hush, hush to play favorites with certain mods that directly involved gameplay tuning, like ACT.

    So why not implement it? If I wana get into raids I need to start my parse somewhere, and since its totally legal to do, by virtue of Yoshi P, add it into the game.
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    Last edited by Laiyenu; 08-23-2025 at 09:18 AM. Reason: spelling


    I'm the Bloodgaru Queen.

  7. #26
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    jimmybe29's Avatar
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    Yamakaji Edo'sen
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    Moogle
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    On 2020/02/06, Yoshi-P went on record saying that they will never implement anything akin to a damage calculator because it would result in bullying.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU
    Yes indeed, this thread has no purpose because it's not happening
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  8. #27
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    Ninishu Nishu
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 100
    They've already implemented Stone, Sea, Sky to help with personal improvement in a non-toxic environment.

    The problem is despite *you* not intending to use it to push players out of content, we ALL know it absolutely will be used that way by players. And the devs already chose years ago dealing with that harassment dragon was not worth the trouble and have built the game with players not having parsers in mind.
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  9. #28
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    Naoto Seijima
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by missTori View Post
    this is a non-issue?? if you've cleared extremes close to release then your damage should be fine to farm anyways.
    and even if i see a dps doing less damage than a healer in casual content- im not gonna xbox 360 style call them out with every slur.
    i think people are way too sensitive when it comes to this stuff
    I just said what the issue was. People will gatekeep this is not a debatable point.
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  10. #29
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Laiyenu View Post
    Many people here claim toxicity, but what's odd is that its used by the devs.
    Show us the fflogs or it didn't happen.
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  11. #30
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    Yumarox Revanche
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    On 2020/02/06, Yoshi-P went on record saying that they will never implement anything akin to a damage calculator because it would result in bullying.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU
    And yet they put in an animation that makes it public when you mess up your ninja rotation with a bunny dunce cap. Kind of one hand not knowing what the other is doing.
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