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    I'm most likely gonna be cooked for saying this, but I'm against the whole flat chest thing for females mostly due to a lot of bad actors using that to create "teen" WoLs.

    While I am for the androgynous look, don't get me wrong, there's just too many players that infamous Google Doc list that mod their characters into "teens." At least then, I wouldn't know if there was one next to me so I wouldn't care, so long they don't get weird on me.

    With the advent of what payment processors are doing, probably not a good idea to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaWafer View Post
    While I am for the androgynous look, don't get me wrong, there's just too many players that infamous Google Doc list that mod their characters into "teens." At least then, I wouldn't know if there was one next to me so I wouldn't care, so long they don't get weird on me.
    I'm confused by this, not trying to cook you just genuinely trying to understand. If you saw a flat chested fem character next to you, you would assume it's a "teen", rather than just an androgynous character? Because there wouldn't be any other way to know that sort of thing without interacting with the player, and by that point you can just block them if you find them to be a bad actor. Just seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokeAndTired View Post
    I'm confused by this, not trying to cook you just genuinely trying to understand. If you saw a flat chested fem character next to you, you would assume it's a "teen", rather than just an androgynous character? Because there wouldn't be any other way to know that sort of thing without interacting with the player, and by that point you can just block them if you find them to be a bad actor. Just seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
    Package this with the height slider to minimum with a young face and et voilà, you got yourself a young looking WoL.

    You can talk me to death about different body shapes, I get it and I'd happily agree with you, but like I said, I have seen too many bad actors in this game to want to try this. Hell, I'd want a flat chest for myself, but at the cost of seeing "teens" running around? Pass. There's just too many and not enough slots in my blacklist.

    However you'd be right, I could always report the bad actor if they're found out and they'd be the GM's problem. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it's not a good time, as I mentioned before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaWafer View Post
    Package this with the height slider to minimum with a young face and et voilà, you got yourself a young looking WoL.

    You can talk me to death about different body shapes, I get it and I'd happily agree with you, but like I said, I have seen too many bad actors in this game to want to try this. Hell, I'd want a flat chest for myself, but at the cost of seeing "teens" running around? Pass. There's just too many and not enough slots in my blacklist.

    However you'd be right, I could always report the bad actor if they're found out and they'd be the GM's problem. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it's not a good time, as I mentioned before.
    Ah, this sounds like a personal problem more than anything. Best of luck to you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokeAndTired View Post
    Ah, this sounds like a personal problem more than anything. Best of luck to you!
    And good luck with your wishlist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaWafer View Post
    Package this with the height slider to minimum with a young face and et voilà, you got yourself a young looking WoL.

    You can talk me to death about different body shapes, I get it and I'd happily agree with you, but like I said, I have seen too many bad actors in this game to want to try this. Hell, I'd want a flat chest for myself, but at the cost of seeing "teens" running around? Pass. There's just too many and not enough slots in my blacklist.

    However you'd be right, I could always report the bad actor if they're found out and they'd be the GM's problem. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it's not a good time, as I mentioned before.
    you can already very easily make characters that look like teens, i don't think this would make much difference. people that want to be gross are going to do that no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaWafer View Post
    I'm most likely gonna be cooked for saying this, but I'm against the whole flat chest thing for females mostly due to a lot of bad actors using that to create "teen" WoLs.

    While I am for the androgynous look, don't get me wrong, there's just too many players that infamous Google Doc list that mod their characters into "teens." At least then, I wouldn't know if there was one next to me so I wouldn't care, so long they don't get weird on me.

    With the advent of what payment processors are doing, probably not a good idea to ask.
    For me, this also sounds more like a personal issue. There are teens out there with very large boobs, and they’re still teens.
    And there are adults with almost none or none. Having boobs or not doesn’t define whether someone is a teenager or an adult.
    That logic just makes no sense, sorry. D : (It basically only distinguishes children from teens/adults. But the races don’t even look like children anyway.)

    And by the way, in most eastern games people do play actual teens. Even in FFXIV we’re surrounded by tons of teen NPCs or “wonder children.”
    Our WoL is basically the only one (according to the trailers) who actually ages, while everyone else stays the same. xD

    All that’s why I really don’t see a problem with giving female characters the option of a flat chest. Personally, I love the androgynous look. It can also make a character
    look more like a cute or cool fantasy/anime guy than like a girl. I think it would be a really cool option for a lot of people.
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    Last edited by Heavenchild; 08-23-2025 at 11:01 AM.
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