Class Rework - Wishlist

[HanakoTheGoth]

i like how you can tell if someones bad at the game based entirely on their dark knight opinions.

do not mistake healers heals as dark knights personal cooldowns

[Seraph_Variel]

that depends what part of the game your at. when every other job got decent cooldowns got shafted in that regard. if your max level sure but if your levesynced your gutted. all every tanks outside of support skills got decent cooldowns. what did you get? again and at what level, end up pulling from start to boss earlier and before healer has use all there all there abilities including benediction keep you alive + burn there mp pool not being able cast single holy without popping swift cast to do it. but then high chance you die. can cause you cant handle that many mobs at once. when other tanks can do it just fine


best way to explain it is. this if white mage or any other healer cannot cast a single aoe ability is forced to heal bot anyway. then yah. things are bad. all healer should be able to cast at least 1-2 aoes before tanks any time of healing. sorry you just cant

do not mistake healers heals as dark knights personal cooldowns

This... Really just sounds like a skill issue. The universal cooldowns, shadow wall and dark mind is pretty much all I ever need in dungeon pulls- all of which you get pre level 50. Up to level 60 you also get abyssal drain which is pretty much a full hp restore every minute on w2ws. Once you get to level 90+ content you just stack oblation with whatever smaller cooldowns you're using, and if you think you're going to die due to an inattentive healer, living dead will set you right more times than not.

Warrior has even LESS mit until they get raw intuition and equalibrium at 56 and 58, and even then, raw intuition (and by extension, bloodwhetting) is just a faster cooldown abyssal drain- showing how overtuned warrior's healing is.
Gunbreaker is much the same- with slightly more reliance on a healer to cover for you.
Paladin in fact has it worst off for mit, really only having Sentinel/Guardian, bulwark and sheltron- and I don't even have bulwark on my hotbars. Paladin makes up for this with it's additive damage reduction on passage of arms at higher levels for party mit.

I really don't get where the idea that DRK is 'bad at low levels with it's mit options' comes from. Few too many TBN-Knights I guess?

As Supersnow845 mentions, scholar is probably the strongest healer in the game in terms of raw output, only stopped by the jankiness of it's kit. I'll take a bad sage over a bad scholar any day, but a good sage vs a good scholar? No question, it's the scholar I'm taking.

Besides that, I don't really have anything else to say about your wishlist- besides Plenary Indulgence being good.

Almost doubling your medica 3 immediate healing, and a 50% boost to any afflatus rapture heals on a one minute cooldown is apparently bad... I mean, it is, in terms of the other healers, but for white mage at least.

[MiaBlaze-Cari]

that depends what part of the game your at. when every other job got decent cooldowns got shafted in that regard. if your max level sure but if your levesynced your gutted. all every tanks outside of support skills got decent cooldowns. what did you get? again and at what level, end up pulling from start to boss earlier and before healer has use all there all there abilities including benediction keep you alive + burn there mp pool not being able cast single holy without popping swift cast to do it. but then high chance you die. can cause you cant handle that many mobs at once. when other tanks can do it just fine


best way to explain it is. this if white mage or any other healer cannot cast a single aoe ability is forced to heal bot anyway. then yah. things are bad. all healer should be able to cast at least 1-2 aoes before tanks any time of healing. sorry you just cant

I have to disagree on that one. Dark Knight's mitigations are fine, imo it's effectively the only tank that still needs some brain usage when it comes to mitigation management while the others are like "hehe self heal go brrrr": Pld with the innate heal on Holy Spirit and Holy Circle (tho only from level 84+), Gnb with Aurora and Heart of Corundum (Level 82+) and War effectively by it's sole existence as soon as Raw Intuition is unlocked. Also before TBN (aka anything below 70) you still have access to strong mitigations and heck even Dark Mind is now more useful than it was before since it will still provide a damage reduction even if it is not magic damage. If you're still "squishy" below 70 with Rampart, Reprisal, Arm's Length, Dark Mind, Shadow Wall and Abyssal Drain (which is essentially a free heal) then I dunno...
To me it sounds like you're way too dependent on TBN and/or can't handle proper mitigation management and therefor this is your impression of Drk.

do not mistake healers heals as dark knights personal cooldowns

If you don't want to actively heal at all you should play DPS instead.


Overall this sounds to me like you're just complaining that Drk has not enough self-heal while you also complain about War having too much self-heal and therefor being "useless" as a healer which is kind of hypocritical to me.
To put it as politely as possible: If you don't want to heal or just rarely want to heal so you can spam your shiny holy then healer might not be the role you're suited for. Pick up Dps instead then you don't have to heal at all and you can fully do damage.

My Wishlist:
1. Do not touch Monk
2. Do not touch Monk
3. Do not touch Monk

That is all, thank you.

Mood...

[Oizen]

do not mistake healers heals as dark knights personal cooldowns

me when the game about partying with 4-8 people requires working with others