Class Rework - Wishlist

[Supersnow845]

Since when is SCH getting reworked in 8.0.

And some of us view said “jankiness” as intentional class design. Healing should have downsides. If you just want to vomit out all your OGCD’s with zero downside then SGE is right there

Why do people Continuously want SCH to just be another SGE, SCH is the only job that even pretends like jobs existed pre 5.0 and it’s healthy playrate shows there is nothing wrong with that

[HanakoTheGoth]

Since when is SCH getting reworked in 8.0.

And some of us view said “jankiness” as intentional class design. Healing should have downsides. If you just want to vomit out all your OGCD’s with zero downside then SGE is right there

Why do people Continuously want SCH to just be another SGE, SCH is the only job that even pretends like jobs existed pre 5.0 and it’s healthy playrate shows there is nothing wrong with that

tell that to summon-er players that want turn a class that is well loved into a modern day wow warlock clone


why do summoners what turn summoner into class it is not? pretty anwsered your own question there

[Sunhwapark]

My Wishlist:
1. Do not touch Monk
2. Do not touch Monk
3. Do not touch Monk

That is all, thank you.

[MiaBlaze-Cari]

that depends what part of the game your at. when every other job got decent cooldowns got shafted in that regard. if your max level sure but if your levesynced your gutted. all every tanks outside of support skills got decent cooldowns. what did you get? again and at what level, end up pulling from start to boss earlier and before healer has use all there all there abilities including benediction keep you alive + burn there mp pool not being able cast single holy without popping swift cast to do it. but then high chance you die. can cause you cant handle that many mobs at once. when other tanks can do it just fine


best way to explain it is. this if white mage or any other healer cannot cast a single aoe ability is forced to heal bot anyway. then yah. things are bad. all healer should be able to cast at least 1-2 aoes before tanks any time of healing. sorry you just cant

I have to disagree on that one. Dark Knight's mitigations are fine, imo it's effectively the only tank that still needs some brain usage when it comes to mitigation management while the others are like "hehe self heal go brrrr": Pld with the innate heal on Holy Spirit and Holy Circle (tho only from level 84+), Gnb with Aurora and Heart of Corundum (Level 82+) and War effectively by it's sole existence as soon as Raw Intuition is unlocked. Also before TBN (aka anything below 70) you still have access to strong mitigations and heck even Dark Mind is now more useful than it was before since it will still provide a damage reduction even if it is not magic damage. If you're still "squishy" below 70 with Rampart, Reprisal, Arm's Length, Dark Mind, Shadow Wall and Abyssal Drain (which is essentially a free heal) then I dunno...
To me it sounds like you're way too dependent on TBN and/or can't handle proper mitigation management and therefor this is your impression of Drk.

do not mistake healers heals as dark knights personal cooldowns

If you don't want to actively heal at all you should play DPS instead.


Overall this sounds to me like you're just complaining that Drk has not enough self-heal while you also complain about War having too much self-heal and therefor being "useless" as a healer which is kind of hypocritical to me.
To put it as politely as possible: If you don't want to heal or just rarely want to heal so you can spam your shiny holy then healer might not be the role you're suited for. Pick up Dps instead then you don't have to heal at all and you can fully do damage.

My Wishlist:
1. Do not touch Monk
2. Do not touch Monk
3. Do not touch Monk

That is all, thank you.

Mood...

[Seraph_Variel]

Jankieness of there kit reason why they are getting reworked in 8.0 also about plenary indulgence sure alright however is it needed no. you easily heal whole raid up without it. have tools to do it. sometimes it overheals more then heals cause sure output of healing you do with over all healing aoe kit it feels like overkill

Is plenary needed? No, but it's still a tool in your kit that cuts the amount of GCD healing you need, which means you get to pump more dps, for better or worse.
Also, stop claiming things as if you're certain- you still haven't provided any proof for the claims you made in your other thread of '100% confirmed changes for 8.0'

tell that to summon-er players that want turn a class that is well loved into a modern day wow warlock clone


why do summoners what turn summoner into class it is not? pretty anwsered your own question there

Older Summoner players want Shadowbringers (or prior) summoner back because it's the only job that played the way it did, even if it wasn't thematic. Now we have a flashy and thematic but shallow as a puddle job in it's place. They cared about the playstyle, and when they complain about how their job got shot out behind the shed, they got told to play in the kiddie pool with their new toys, and not complain when their old ones get taken away.

[Kurando]

I can't take anyone seriously who's starting line to any sentence is "Fire the person...".

[Oizen]

do not mistake healers heals as dark knights personal cooldowns

me when the game about partying with 4-8 people requires working with others